Author: Pallav Nawani
Date: 11:50:46 08/25/04
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On August 24, 2004 at 20:33:08, Derek Paquette wrote: >On August 24, 2004 at 15:50:20, Pallav Nawani wrote: > >>On August 24, 2004 at 14:22:10, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>Hydra is the perfect machine to cruch Kramnik or Kasparov due to the fact that >>>Hydra is NOT commercial like Deeper Blue. I wonder if Hydra is already stronger >>>than Deeper Blue, only if the owner of Deeper Blue can makes it available to >>>play a match against Hydra. >>> >>>Jorge >> >>Reality check: >> >>1. Hydra beat Shredder due to its superior hardware. >>2. Human Vs Machine (like Kasparove Vs Deep Blue) games always have dice loaded >>in favour of machines: >> (a) You can study all the games Kasparove played and accordingly plan your >>openings/tweak your playing style, while Kasparove gets to analyze _none_ of the >>deep blue games. This is a strong (and unfair) advantage. >> (b) Computer programs can use tablebases, allowing them perfect play in >>endings - access to extra knowledge which humans don't have. Can Kasparov >>consult a ending book during a match? >> >>Give kasparov 100 Hydra games to analyze & then play a match against him. He >>will bury Hydra. He was able to go toe to toe with deep blue, a machine a order >>of magnitude faster than Hydra. He can defintely handle Hydra. >> >>Regards, >>Pallav > >Some information for you, >Hydra has ALREADY played more games than kasparov will play in his lifetime on >the playchess server under several accounts, > >Kasparov CAN study hydra games > >If he does, he will realize he cannot win, and decline the match offer, as it >has become clear that humans no longer have the ability to punish, crush or beat >computers in a tournament time control match. And of course, the Hydra which will play against Kasparov will be exactly the same version which plays on the Playchess server? It will not be specifically tuned to counter the gameplay style of Kasparov? If not, those thousands of games are worth nothing. Just because Hydra will crush _you_ dosen't mean you can draw the same conclusion about Kasparov. _Repeat_: Kasparov was able to match DB although DB was the fastest chess computer ever made. Hydra, strong as it is, cannot match the DB hardware! It is therefore illogical to conclude that Hydra is the strongest chess playing entity today. Regds, Pallav
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