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Subject: Re: Question regarding approx. Elo of current crop

Author: Pallav Nawani

Date: 12:15:59 08/25/04

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On August 25, 2004 at 04:46:17, Ross Boyd wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was reading an old article published in a chess column in The Bulletin from
>July 1985. The author, Terrey Shaw, displays the following list and gives an
>annotated game where a computer takes the scalp of a leading Sydney player. (The
>column states he was the highest rated Australian (2121) to be beaten by 'an
>infernal machine').
>
>Here's his ELO list for circa 1985:
>
>2700 ... World Champion
>2550 ... Average GM
>2400 ... Average IM
>2200 ... National Master
>2000 ... Strongest Computers (this was 1985 remember)
>2000 ... Candidate Master
>1550 ... Average Club Player
>1000 ... Average social player
>
>Just out of curiosity, where would the current strong commercials appear on the
>above list? And where would a medium strength engine appear on this list? Say,
>somewhere between Phalanx 22 and Fruit?
>
>Do we have any reliable reference data?
>
>I don't want a debate... just a rough'n'ready estimate.... just for fun. :-)
>
>Opinions anyone?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ross

My estimates. Assume shredder etc running on a dual processor machine with 3Ghz
processors, Long time control:

Shredder & co: 2500 ELO
Hydra: 2600 (??)

Crafty etc: 2400
Phalanx: 2300
Fruit: 2250

Again a guess, which is based on showing of my program against humans on FICS,
and matches between GMs and programs (Like Fritz/Deep Junior) etc. Also noting
that humans like Eduard nemeth can consistently beat programs like Fritz 8
(although on a slower computer).

Regards,
Pallav




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