Author: Jon Dart
Date: 13:08:36 08/25/04
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I fail to understand why some other person/organization can't host this effectively. The web isn't a permanent medium, and sites do go away. But there are members of this forum who have a serious long-term interest in computer chess and some of these already host sites already that have had a long tenure on the Web. There is no justification for the blanket statement that all of these people are irresponsible or incapable of making a long-term commitment. Personally I'd rather see hosting of this change hands than have it convert to a fee-only board. --Jon On August 25, 2004 at 11:13:48, Steven Schwartz wrote: >Hi Everyone, >First of all, thanks for all the kind words about my company. Although there is >one person who seems to feel that we run CCC/CTF off ICD bandwidth - which we do >not, and believes that the message board brings us lots of customers - which it >does not. > >As far as the issue about hosting CCC (and CTF) is concerned.... >I took a quick count of the responses to the choices I laid out. Here are the >results (wasn't easy to count since some people made no specific letter choice >but rather made general comments), at least as far as members who posted their >choices as of now: > >12 a) some other organization can take over the responsibility of hosting > 4 b) CCC and CTF can be disbanded and members can rejoin the USENET >44 c) members can pay a yearly fee to belong > 5 d) members can voluntarily contribute > >There were, as usual, many, many differing opinions about how to fix the >problem, but I thought Ed posted about the issue most eloquently: > >"Think about the work involved, first the daily work of making the archives, the >complaints by email about moderation issues, the legal threats some people make >when they are banned, can the person really stand the heat, or will be shut down >the website? Then the work involved regarding 2 mod elections a year. Then so >now and then the site will go down, suppose the person is on vacation or ill? > >Here is some more, the person fells in love, priorities change, goodbye with the >forum. People move to other cities, get a new and very busy job, people get >sick, become a father, change priorities all the time -> there goes the forum >again. The end result is so predictable.... CTF will run from pillar to post, 2 >times a year at least. > >Wanna bet? >Ed :)" > > >Some of you have been with us since the beginning of CCC almost 7 years ago. >Certainly it is the members who make a forum interesting and exciting, but it is >like a Broadway show. The play goes on and is a big hit not only because of the >actors out front but also because of the people who do the work "behind the >scenes". Hosting is only a small part of what needs to be done to have these >forums run correctly. I would never want my company to ever be associated with >anything that was not run correctly. But time has come for some change. The >market has dictated that. I think I may have a solution that might please most >(you can never please everyone). Let me refine it and make a proposal later. > >In the meantime, as usual, I welcome feedback. > >Steve >ICD/Your Move Chess & Games
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