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Subject: Re: M$ goes Chess?!?

Author: blass uri

Date: 15:22:03 01/05/99

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On January 05, 1999 at 18:13:57, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On January 05, 1999 at 16:57:40, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 05, 1999 at 15:19:09, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>[snip]
>
>>>"Much stronger" is pretty vague.  This could mean 50 ELO points or 200 ELO
>>>points, depending on your point of view.  Can you be more specific in your
>>>answer?
>
>>Perhaps orders of magnitude stronger.
>
>Argh!  I had just finished complaining that Eugene's "much stronger" comment was
>too vague, and I'm afraid this isn't much better.  I'm looking for quantitative
>estimates, specifically in terms of ELO ratings.
>
>Please if anybody else has an opinion, and wants to respond, at least give a
>rating range as part of your answer.  Thanks.
>
>
>>  I worked at Microsoft for about 10 years
>>and I can tell you that they have a large number of very talented people who
>>work there.  You may imagine some giant pool of chowderheads,
>
>No, I don't imagine that at all.  I know some Microsoft people too, and they are
>all very bright.  But I am of the opinion that computer chess is now in the
>realm of diminishing returns.  The current commercial programs already search so
>deep that I think even a 50-100 point improvement in playing strength would be a
>tremendous accomplishment.
>
>I suspect that Microsoft could build something that would reach that "50-100
>point stronger" point if they devoted enough resources.  Again, keep in mind
>that I'm talking about a pure software implementation, and not a mixed
>hardware/software project like IBM's Deep Blue.
>
>--Peter

I believe that they can get 250-500 elo improvement by 1,000,000,000$

50-100 ELO improvement is not very much
(2 programmers say that  they can get 100-150 elo improvement by using the ideas
of Rebel and Tiger).

If only 2 programmers can get even only 50 elo improvement then you can expect
much more then 50-100 improvement by 1,000,000,000$

Uri



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