Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 17:16:00 08/25/04
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On August 25, 2004 at 20:07:00, José Carlos wrote: >On August 25, 2004 at 19:58:21, José Carlos wrote: > >>On August 25, 2004 at 17:41:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>I subscribe to a normal "legal philosophy" from the US. For a "crime" to be >>>committed, a couple of things are needed. >>> >>>(1) Intent. You need to knowingly break the law. IE if you walk into a store, >>>see a dollar bill laying on the floor, and you pick it up without thinking, you >>>_could_ be accused of theft of property. But there was no intent since the >>>floor is not a normal place for someone to leave "property" that is valuable. >>>No crime was committed. >>> >>>I believe this case fits that scenario. >>> >>>(2) Victim. Someone has to be victimized, directly or indirectly. He's not >>>tried to enter any ACM chess events which would victimize participants. He has >>>not publicly claimed that his code was 100% original that I have seen, so I am >>>not a victim. >>> >>>This is an unfortunate event, but one that doesn't leave me nearly as aggravated >>>as some of the other more famous cases, like bionic, le petite, voyager, et. al. >>> They definitely claimed the code to be original when it was not. >> >> Hi Bob, I'd don't quite understand your position. I'd like to know your >>opinion about these questions, to help me clarify: >> >> -shoud current version of ElChinito be allowed to participate in computer >>chess events without indicating it derives from Crafty? Clearly not >> -should Castillo and Tang be penalized somehow for previous participations? I think the exposure has accomplished that >> -is the copywright in Quisinky's page legal? No. >> -is hidding the truth acceptable when not explicity saying lies? Clearly not >> -what would you think if other 100 engines would be proven to be in the same >>situation of ElChinito? I think we won't have to worry about that. Only the engines that are near to the strength of crafty are really suspect. >> -should ElChinito change its name now to explicity indicate it derives from >>Crafty? I think that the logical recourse is to follow the directions in the copyright. That is to say, he should indicate that it is a crafty clone and also publish the source code. >> -should current released versions of ElChinito be released again with source >>code included? That would be how I read the license. >> José C. > > Participations of ElChinito at: > >http://www.playwitharena.com/directory/partner.htm > > At the end of the page. > > José C.
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