Author: Uri Blass
Date: 17:33:31 08/25/04
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On August 25, 2004 at 20:16:00, Dann Corbit wrote: >On August 25, 2004 at 20:07:00, José Carlos wrote: > >>On August 25, 2004 at 19:58:21, José Carlos wrote: >> >>>On August 25, 2004 at 17:41:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>I subscribe to a normal "legal philosophy" from the US. For a "crime" to be >>>>committed, a couple of things are needed. >>>> >>>>(1) Intent. You need to knowingly break the law. IE if you walk into a store, >>>>see a dollar bill laying on the floor, and you pick it up without thinking, you >>>>_could_ be accused of theft of property. But there was no intent since the >>>>floor is not a normal place for someone to leave "property" that is valuable. >>>>No crime was committed. >>>> >>>>I believe this case fits that scenario. >>>> >>>>(2) Victim. Someone has to be victimized, directly or indirectly. He's not >>>>tried to enter any ACM chess events which would victimize participants. He has >>>>not publicly claimed that his code was 100% original that I have seen, so I am >>>>not a victim. >>>> >>>>This is an unfortunate event, but one that doesn't leave me nearly as aggravated >>>>as some of the other more famous cases, like bionic, le petite, voyager, et. al. >>>> They definitely claimed the code to be original when it was not. >>> >>> Hi Bob, I'd don't quite understand your position. I'd like to know your >>>opinion about these questions, to help me clarify: >>> >>> -shoud current version of ElChinito be allowed to participate in computer >>>chess events without indicating it derives from Crafty? > >Clearly not > >>> -should Castillo and Tang be penalized somehow for previous participations? > >I think the exposure has accomplished that Elchinito promoted to the premier division of Leo based on it's results. Should Leo accept this result? > >>> -is the copywright in Quisinky's page legal? > >No. > >>> -is hidding the truth acceptable when not explicity saying lies? > >Clearly not > >>> -what would you think if other 100 engines would be proven to be in the same >>>situation of ElChinito? > >I think we won't have to worry about that. Only the engines that are near to >the strength of crafty are really suspect. No There are clones of tscp and other programs so I do not agree that only engines near the strength of crafty are suspected to be clones. Uri
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