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Subject: Re: ElChinito private, amateur or well on top tourneys???!!!!!!!!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:03:39 08/26/04

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On August 26, 2004 at 10:10:29, David Dahlem wrote:

>On August 26, 2004 at 10:05:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2004 at 02:31:14, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 25, 2004 at 23:00:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 25, 2004 at 19:58:21, José Carlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 25, 2004 at 17:41:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Bob, I'd don't quite understand your position. I'd like to know your
>>>>>opinion about these questions, to help me clarify:
>>>>>
>>>>>  -shoud current version of ElChinito be allowed to participate in computer
>>>>>chess events without indicating it derives from Crafty?
>>>>
>>>>No.  Not even if it is clearly written that it is a derived program.  That
>>>>simply won't work.
>>>>
>>>>>  -should Castillo and Tang be penalized somehow for previous participations?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Question is, what have they played in besides Frank's private tournaments.  I've
>>>>never seen them in an event that I can call..
>>>
>>>
>>>ROTFL.
>>>
>>>Folks, have mercy please with Saint Bob.
>>>
>>>Here is a little overview for such tournaments Bob has forgotten!
>>
>>I didn't forget any of these.  I was not even aware of most of them.
>>
>>>
>>>2001, 3rd French programmers Massy 3.5/6 points, ranking 5 of 12
>>>2002, 9th France-ch Massy 8/11 points, ranking 3 of 12
>>>2002, 4th French programmers Massy, Champion 5/6 points, ranking 7 of 12
>>
>>Never been in any of the above myself.
>>
>>>2002, 10th WCCC Maastricht 4.5/9 points, ranking 10 of 18
>>>2003, 5th French programmers Massy 4/6 points, ranking 3 of 18
>>>2003, 10th France-ch Massy 4.5/7 points, ranking 3 of 14
>>
>>Didn't play in any of the french events.
>>
>>
>>
>>>2003, 18th WMCCC Graz 5/11 points, ranking 07 of 15
>>
>>I think Crafty player in the last one.  But I don't recall anything about it
>>since I didn't operate.
>
>
>What difference does it make if you didn't actually personally participate in
>any of these events? Your code did. :-)
>
>Regards
>Dave

It means I don't know much about what went on, who participated, or anything.
If you recall, the ICCA has not exactly been outstanding in providing
information to the outside world as these events are actually progressing...

>
>>
>>>
>>>So that program, a Craftyclone participated in at least two World Championships
>>>in 2002 and 2003. And the fairy tale E. Castillo has presented here is a
>>>complete rubbish, namely that it was Frank Quisinsky who just made a "fault" in
>>>presenting the prog although it had been designed for exclusively private use so
>>>far.



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