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Subject: Re: How you can donate to CCC... Stats & Hidden Problems

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 10:37:11 08/27/04

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On August 27, 2004 at 05:25:43, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>On August 27, 2004 at 03:54:45, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On August 26, 2004 at 23:19:49, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>>
>>>something I may add: maybe you make a page somewhere about WHO has donated, but
>>>please do not add WHAT he has paid... 5 bucks from someone might be definitely
>>>not the same thing then 5 bucks from another one...
>>
>>I fully support this. A list of supporters of this forum could encourage other
>>to support, but adding the amount is too difficult because some comes from a low
>>income country, are retired etc. A dollar isn't the same for everybody.
>>
>>Odd Gunnar
>
>
>All true, but perhaps the information could also show if there's a correlation
>between quality of messages and donation quantity. BTW I still think that with
>25$ bank costs for each invoice it would be better if the real top guys who are
>still in juice (say like Fernando) should solve the problem and not 20 people
>with each 5 $$. Thats kind of ridiculous. I dont understand Steve at all.


25$ bank costs for each invoice. Is that true?
For bank transfer from europe?
I am really not familar with such issues.


>
>I would also have wanted to read something about the store business. In the end
>the few users of CCC have to support people who are simply working in a
>diminishing area.


Ok, i guess America's Largest Chess Store, ICD Corp. is not
yet a joint stock company. Did you read "Feel the Love"?

http://www.icdchess.com/lovefile.html

>Who's buying books or chess pieces anymore?

Good chess books are always selled well.
I guess for pieces there are enough chess clubs around.
I even guess the relative sales volume of books and pieces is actually
growing compared to software or dedicated chess computers.


>
>I must also mention (seems to me that people dont know this) that the tech of
>this site is awfully unspectacular compares even to usenet, where you can really
>"work" with the threads, here the few features look a bit outdated. Is that only
>my view?
>
>However the final point now is crucial.
>
>Without mentioning the details let me describe what is now possibly going on. In
>computerchess (like all fields which have a principal overlap through the
>internet) we have two paradigms at least. The commercial offer and the so-called
>"free" variation. Of course the latter is the gravedigger of the first. Now if I
>want to criticise bad excuses for fraud, let's name it for what it is, I have to
>argue against Bob with his social school bent, because even such "evil"
>occupation with Crafty is basically occupation with Crafty and computerchess.
>That is incredible for the business branch which lives only if there is a
>minimum of a working copyright. But if I criticise someone who's joking with
>such a mess and basically supported the fraud with his neglegent control
>(because he was the boss of the webpage) I am told here by some moderator that I
>can tell all that to the guy in HIS forum but not here. But the guy himself can
>write here in CCC what he wants, if it's really odd he simply changes into
>German.
>
>No, for such a practice I don't want to pay, only to let me be moderated by
>biased mods, like here from the "free" part of CC.
>
>Something is hiding unter the blankets somehow. Why Steve didn't address such
>topics is beyond my intellectual standard.

Seems that your intellectual standard is just too high ;-)



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