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Subject: Re: an endgame test position

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 16:11:42 08/28/04

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On August 28, 2004 at 18:40:43, martin fierz wrote:

>aloha!
>
>after all the cloning talk, here's something to test your favorite engine with:
>i played a weakish IM today and got the following position after 56...Qg6+
>57.Kf2:
>
>[D] 8/6kp/8/3p4/1P4q1/P4p2/5K2/4Q3 b - - 0 57
>
>it took me a couple of seconds to see that after 57...Qh4+ 58. Kf1 Qxe1+ 59.
>Kxe1 Kf6 black is completely winning due to the floating square (it's nice to
>see that reading dvoretzky is some good!) and so i played that and won :-)
>
>interestingly, when i entered this game in chessbase running fritz7 in the
>background, fritz didn't seem to see this at all within a minute or so. so
>question to all: how long does your favorite engine need to see the line ...Qh4+
>Kf1 Qxe1+ with a HUGE plus score (i.e. +9 or so - that is what my assessment of
>the position was after a couple of seconds...)?
>
>i don't want to claim that this is the only win, but it is by far the easiest
>one, and fritz 7 misses it completely.
>
>cheers
>  martin

ProDeo sees a slightly different line, with a gradually increasing score ...

ProDeo UCI  UCI1:
 1   00:00 -0.74   1. ... Kf6
 1   00:00 -0.82   1. ... d4
 1   00:00 -0.92   1. ... Qf4
 1   00:00 -1.50   1. ... Qg2+ 2.Ke3
 1   00:00 -1.87   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qxe1+ 3.Kxe1
 2   00:00 -1.87   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qxe1+ 3.Kxe1
 3   00:00 -1.87   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qxe1+ 3.Kxe1
 4   00:00 -1.47   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kg8
 5   00:00 -1.56   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 d4+ 5.Kxd4 f2 6.Qe5+
Kg6 7.Qe6+ Kg5
 6   00:00 -1.28   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 d4+ 5.Kxd4 f2 6.Qe5+
Kh6 7.Qf6+ Qg6 8.Qf4+ Kg7 9.Kc5 Qc2+
 7   00:01 -1.57   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf7 5.Qb1 Qe2+ 6.Kd4
f2 7.Qxh7+ Kf6 8.Qh6+ Kf5
 8   00:02 -1.52   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf7 5.Qd1 d4+ 6.Kxd4
f2 7.Qh5+ Qg6 8.Qd5+ Qe6 9.Qb7+ Ke8 10.Qb8+ Kd7
 9   00:06 -2.40   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf8 5.Qd2 d4+ 6.Kd3
Qxd2+ 7.Kxd2
10   00:14 -2.36   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf8 5.Qb1 Qe2+ 6.Kd4
f2 7.Qf5+ Ke8 8.Qc8+ Ke7 9.Qc5+ Kf6 10.Qf8+ Kg5 11.Qd8+ Kg4
11   00:36 -2.51   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh3+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf8 5.Qd2 d4+ 6.Kd3
f2 7.Qh6+ Ke8 8.Qe6+ Kd8 9.Qd6+ Kc8 10.Qc5+ Kb7 11.Qb5+ Kc7 12.Qe5+ Kc6
12   02:34 -2.76   1. ... Qh4+ 2.Kf1 Qh1+ 3.Kf2 Qg2+ 4.Ke3 Kf8 5.Kd4 Qb2+ 6.Kxd5
Qg2 7.Kd4 f2 8.Qa1

Regards
Dave



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