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Subject: Re: Another Vincent "masterpiece

Author: Derek Paquette

Date: 21:10:01 08/29/04

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On August 29, 2004 at 21:27:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>Here is a quote from ICC:
>
>quote on===================================================
>DIEP(C DM)(64): because they claimed having 'solved' chess and people like hyatt
>supporting that indirectly (by saying that nothing ever can get better than that
>old program)
>quote off==================================================
>
>This is _another_ case where I want to see a _specific_ quote, or a specific
>citation for an article where I made that statement (nothing can ever get better
>than DB).  I've never said it.  I've never implied it.  In fact, I have been
>quoted more than once where I predicted that hardware would eventually take us
>well beyond DB's speed/performance.
>
>My quote was that in 1997, it would take 10+ years for a micro-computer based
>program to approach DB's speed.  Today I can hit 10M nodes per second on a quad
>opteron, 20M on an 8-way.  Probably approaching 40M on a 16-way box.  That isn't
>as fast as DB, but it is in the ballpark.  And I still have 3 more years on my
>"prediction".  Next year AMD has promised a dual-core opteron, so that 16-way
>box will instantly become a 32-way box.  80M if there is no clock speed
>improvement, yet they say it will be faster via clock as well.  So 2007 may be
>enough time to hit 200M roughly, if not more.
>
>But to Vincent, once again, please provide an exact quote with the source, or an
>exact citation of a paper I wrote, where I made the statement you claimed I
>made.  All I claim is that you are a liar.
>
>Here's yet another case to join the JICCA paper you claimed I wrote, the CCC
>posts you claimed I made, etc.
>
>The list is growing.
>
>Your credibility is shrinking.  Why don't you just adopt the policy of not using
>_my_ name with your nonsense?  I don't exactly drop your name in every
>conversation I hold.  You ought to do the same.  You'd look a lot less ignorant.

This actually leads to an interesting question,

If you were able to put together a 32cpu cluster for Crafty, how do you think it
would fair vs DB at this point?
Also, if someone were to ask you, what is the best cpu's for crafty, would you
answer
opteron?
xeon?
Itanium? (I heard these were very good for chess)




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