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Subject: Re: The status of CCC contributions so far.....

Author: José Carlos

Date: 09:42:07 08/31/04

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On August 31, 2004 at 12:01:39, Steven Schwartz wrote:

>First of all, I want to thank all of the members who have chosen to
>contribute to the CCC. It would have been impossible for us to
>continue if members did not open their wallets. I have guaranteed the
>membership that CCC will stay right where it is until, at least, February
>no matter what happened.
>
>However, there is still a ways to go to have the CCC/CTF pay its own
>way, so that we can avoid commercialism and keep the board right here,
>running as smoothly as it has for the last 7 years.
>
>Here are the details of what has transpired so far (as of right now):
>59 members have contributed a total of $1935. That is an average donation
>of $32.80. The donations have ranged from $5 to $250.
>
>This is a somewhat less than 1/2 of what is needed to make the CCC/CTF totally
>self sufficient cost-wise. The goal is to reach $4400. It does not pay
>for the outlay of money that we have put into CCC for the last three
>years (I am not asking for that back. I do not feel that is right), but it does
>take the burden of the next year's expenses off our back.
>
>If the goal can be reached, the guarantee can be pushed till next August. At
>that time, we can make decisions as to how and where CCC will be housed
>thereafter.
>
>We did an emailing which is ending shortly to all CCC/CTF members
>asking for contributions. I also posted here on CCC. One of the problems
>may be that August is a big time for vacations.
>
>What appears to have happened is that about 1% of the total membership
>and, perhaps, 6% to 12% of the "active" membership, has responded to our plea
>for donations. That is a bit disppointing considering the fact that even the
>elections manage to bring out 200 or so people.
>
>So, please, if you have used and enjoyed CCC over the years, consider
>making a donation to keep everything as it has been. There are links
>at the top of the message board to make it easy, and you may contribute
>as little as $5 or as much as you wish. The money will ONLY be used to
>pay the bills at CCC.

  I said from the begining that I wouldn't pay. I can't at this moment, but I
wouldn't even if I could because it's against my idea of how this is supposed to
work. I said, and still think the same, that a sponsor should be found and
otherwise, someone else should host the forum, for which there were very
interesting proposals.
  I repeat my position because the above comments look pretty much like a moral
manoeuvre, which I don't like. I hope this kind of comments don't put me in a
"bad people list".
  In fact, I prefer a obligatory fee and being out because of it than this way
of categoryze people in "good guys" and "those who enjoy the forum but don't
move a finger to help keeping it alive".

  Just my opinion,

  José C.



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