Author: martin fierz
Date: 13:21:46 08/31/04
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On August 31, 2004 at 09:33:11, WAEL DEEB wrote:
>Hi Jorge,
>I haven't install and played with Muse yet,but it seems to have some serious
>weak spots in it's opening book!
just for confirmation, muse does not have these lines in its opening book, and
taking a quick look they are really crap. i don't see the point of using a
common book for all engines if it is this bad! IMO there are 3 sensible options
to test:
-> engine uses own book
-> no book, X selected starting positions (like nunn match)
-> all engines use a common but small book with no losing lines in
tournaments with books where one engine gets out of the opening in a lost
position are partially useless. unless the author provided such a book of course
:-)
cheers
martin
>Please take a look at this game!It just gave away a pawn for nothing in the
>opening stage and that's with black pieces!
>
>[Event "Arena tournament"]
>[Site "S0025128408"]
>[Date "2004.08.31"]
>[Round "5"]
>[White "Bruja_18"]
>[Black "Muse0898"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[Time "03:31:53"]
>[TimeControl "1200+0"]
>[Termination "normal"]
>[PlyCount "117"]
>[WhiteType "program"]
>[BlackType "program"]
>
>1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Bc5 5.Be3 Qb6 6.c3 Nc6 7.Nd2 d5 8.N2b3 Bxd4
>9.Nxd4 Qd8 10.Qg4 {+0.97/8 7} Nf6 {-0.70/9 14} 11.Qxg7 {+0.77/10 9} Rg8
>{-0.85/11 18}
>12.Nxc6 {+1.05/10 3} bxc6 {-1.07/12 33} 13.Qh6 {+1.02/11 6} Rg6 {-1.07/10 35}
>14.Qf4
>{+1.03/10 10} Nxe4 {-0.82/10 18} 15.f3 {+1.10/9 11} Nd6 {-0.81/9 16} 16.O-O-O
>{+1.07/8 3}
>a5 {-0.86/8 13} 17.Bd3 {+1.19/8 9} Rxg2 {-1.11/10 20} 18.Bc5 {+1.74/9 8} Nf5
>{-1.04/9 21} 19.Rhg1 {+1.53/9 9} Rg6 {-1.63/9 16} 20.Rde1 {+2.19/9 9} Nh4
>{-1.12/9 25}
>21.Bxg6 {+2.84/9 6} Nxg6 {-1.96/10 16} 22.Qh6 {+3.18/10 11} Qf6 {-1.97/9 22}
>23.Qxh7
>{+3.16/9 11} Kd7 {-2.09/8 13} 24.h4 {+3.02/8 11} Ba6 {-2.08/8 15} 25.Re3
>{+2.91/9 14}
>Rd8 {-2.25/8 12} 26.Rg4 {+3.18/9 16} Rb8 {-2.45/8 10} 27.h5 {+3.46/9 10} Ne7
>{-2.62/9 14} 28.Qg7 {+4.00/10 11} Qf5 {-2.73/9 28} 29.Bxe7 {+3.75/8 7} Kxe7
>{-2.73/8 14}
>30.Qd4 {+3.51/9 7} Ra8 {-2.81/8 16} 31.h6 {+3.92/8 3} Qh5 {-2.96/8 17} 32.Qf4
>{+4.85/9
>15} Rc8 {-3.43/8 14} 33.Rg7 {+4.83/8 11} c5 {-3.55/7 13} 34.Kc2 {+5.28/8 11} Rf8
>{-3.59/8 20} 35.Re1 {+5.10/8 8} a4 {-3.77/7 12} 36.Qc7+ {+5.57/8 7} Kf6 {-3.96/8
>23}
>37.Qd6 {+5.11/8 13} Ra8 {-3.99/8 11} 38.f4 {+5.04/8 11} a3 {-3.92/8 18} 39.bxa3
>{+5.28/8 6} Qh2+ {-4.34/8 12} 40.Kc1 {+6.82/9 7} Qh5 {-5.46/9 20} 41.Qxc5
>{+6.27/9 24}
>Bd3 {-5.23/8 26} 42.Qd4+ {+7.96/8 6} Ke7 {-6.30/8 8} 43.Qc5+ {+7.96/8 5} Kf6
>{0.00/14 7} 44.Qd4+ {+7.57/9 11} Ke7 {0.00/15 10} 45.Qxd3 {+7.88/9 7} Qxh6
>{-6.19/7 7}
>46.Qd4 {+7.72/8 3} Rf8 {-6.98/7 7} 47.Qc5+ {+9.39/9 6} Ke8 {-8.36/10 12} 48.Rg5
>{+9.43/9 6} Rh8 {-9.01/9 31} 49.Qc8+ {+9.36/8 6} Ke7 {0.00/1} 50.Qc7+ {+9.26/8
>5} Kf6
>{-8.06/8 7} 51.Reg1 {+9.42/8 7} Qh7 {-8.25/8 10} 52.Rxd5 {+9.96/9 8} Qe4
>{-9.09/8 7}
>53.Rdg5 {+10.15/9 7} Re8 {-9.37/8 8} 54.Kb2 {+10.63/9 14} Rh8 {-9.83/8 14}
>55.R5g7
>{+11.27/10 11} Qe2+ {-9.52/8 23} 56.Ka1 {+12.47/10 10} Qh5 {-12.03/8 7} 57.f5
>{+14.92/9 4}
>Re8 {-15.93/8 21} 58.fxe6 {+17.32/9 14} Re7 {-21.66/7 16} {1-0 Arena
>Adjudication} 1-0
>
>In this game the moves:7..e6,8..Nbd7 and so on,are meaningless and passive to be
>played with black pieces!
>
>[Event "Arena tournament"]
>[Site "S0025128408"]
>[Date "2004.08.30"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Ges"]
>[Black "Muse0898"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[Time "20:36:30"]
>[TimeControl "1200+0"]
>[Termination "normal"]
>[PlyCount "160"]
>[WhiteType "program"]
>[BlackType "program"]
>
>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.e3 Bg7 5.Qb3 dxc4 6.Bxc4 O-O 7.Nf3 e6 8.O-O Nbd7
>9.Rd1 Qe7 10.e4 c6 11.e5 Nd5 12.Ne4 f6 13.exf6 N7xf6 14.Bg5 Qc7 15.Bxf6 Bxf6
>{-0.68/10 22} 16.Nxf6+ {+0.77/9 54} Rxf6 {-0.74/10 24} 17.Ne5 {+0.62/9 55} Qg7
>{-0.74/8
>13} 18.Rac1 {+0.85/9 53} Rf4 {-0.68/9 22} 19.g3 {+0.82/9 50} Rf6 {-0.61/9 20}
>20.Rde1 {+0.90/9 48} Qc7 {-0.62/9 21} 21.Qa3 {+0.80/8 45} Rf8 {-0.61/8 16}
>22.Qc5
>{+0.92/8 40} Qb6 {-0.43/9 14} 23.b3 {+0.97/9 41} g5 {-0.45/9 21} 24.Rcd1
>{+1.04/9 39}
>Qxc5 {-0.44/9 12} 25.dxc5 {+0.99/10 37} Kg7 {-0.49/10 18} 26.a4 {+0.98/9 35} h5
>{-0.47/10 17} 27.f3 {+1.04/9 33} Rf5 {-0.46/9 11} 28.Bd3 {+1.12/10 30} Rf8
>{-0.52/11 33}
>29.Bg6 {+1.13/9 30} Rh8 {-0.44/9 19} 30.a5 {+1.15/8 27} h4 {-0.48/9 16} 31.Rd4
>{+1.20/9 27} Ne7 {-0.59/9 17} 32.Bc2 {+1.19/9 26} hxg3 {-0.68/9 12} 33.hxg3
>{+1.23/9 25}
>Rg8 {-0.88/9 14} 34.Kg2 {+1.34/8 22} Nd5 {-0.92/9 16} 35.Nc4 {+1.32/8 22} Nb4
>{-0.72/10 14} 36.Bd1 {+1.32/9 21} Na6 {-0.82/10 14} 37.Nd6 {+1.33/9 20} Kf6
>{-0.84/9 9}
>38.b4 {+1.46/8 18} e5 {-1.15/9 23} 39.Rde4 {+1.64/9 18} Bd7 {-1.32/9 15} 40.Be2
>{+2.04/9 17} Rab8 {-1.49/9 10} 41.Nxb7 {+1.95/9 17} Nc7 {-1.41/10 11} 42.Bc4
>{+1.83/9
>16} Nd5 {-1.43/9 12} 43.Nd6 {+2.04/9 14} Rxb4 {-1.37/9 13} 44.Bxd5 {+2.20/9 14}
>Rb2+ {-1.41/10 10} 45.Kg1 {+2.33/11 14} cxd5 {-1.43/9 8} 46.R4xe5 {+2.25/10 13}
>g4
>{-1.65/9 11} 47.f4 {+2.11/10 12} Rb3 {-2.14/8 8} 48.Kf2 {+2.63/8 12} Rb2+
>{-2.28/8 13}
>49.Ke3 {+2.81/9 11} Rgb8 {-2.21/8 11} 50.Rxd5 {+2.58/9 10} R8b3+ {-2.26/8 8}
>51.Rd3
>{+2.58/10 9} Rxd3+ {-2.44/8 13} 52.Kxd3 {+2.68/10 9} Ra2 {-2.39/9 14} 53.Nc4
>{+2.98/10 9}
>Bb5 {-3.02/10 10} 54.Kc3 {+3.11/10 8} Rg2 {-3.43/10 15} 55.Re3 {+3.55/10 7} a6
>{-3.35/9 11} 56.Kb3 {+3.63/10 8} Bd7 {-3.38/9 8} 57.Kb4 {+3.81/10 7} Rg1
>{-3.35/9 7}
>58.Ne5 {+3.71/10 6} Be6 {-3.04/10 10} 59.c6 {+3.66/10 7} Rb1+ {-3.18/10 10}
>60.Kc5
>{+3.69/10 6} Rb5+ {0.00/11 35} 61.Kd6 {+3.99/11 6} Rd5+ {-4.41/10 8} 62.Kc7
>{+3.99/10}
>Rb5 {-4.56/9 7} 63.Nd7+ {+4.81/10 6} Kf7 {-5.30/11 13} 64.Kd8 {+4.86/9 5} Rh5
>{-4.51/11 8} 65.Ne5+ {+4.98/9 5} Kg7 {-4.63/10 7} 66.c7 {+5.13/9 4} Rh2
>{-5.72/11 17}
>67.Nd7 {+6.12/10 4} Rh8+ {-6.94/11 6} 68.Ke7 {+6.05/11 4} Bf5 {-6.75/10 5}
>69.Rb3
>{+6.79/10 4} Rc8 {-7.28/12 5} 70.Rc3 {+6.82/10 4} Bg6 {-7.45/11 8} 71.Rc5
>{+6.82/10 4}
>Bf7 {-7.64/11 6} 72.Kd6 {+7.04/9 3} Bb3 {-8.09/11 6} 73.Nb6 {+7.10/9 3} Re8
>{-8.78/12 5} 74.c8=Q {+8.12/9 3} Rxc8 {-8.96/12 5} 75.Rxc8 {+8.30/9 3} Bd1
>{-9.23/11 7}
>76.Ke6 {+8.86/8 3} Bb3+ {-12.68/11 6} 77.Nc4 {+9.04/9 2} Bc2 {-M8/11 12} 78.f5
>{+9.80/8 2} Be4 {-M6/10 6} 79.f6+ {+21.01/8 2} Kh6 {-M5/10 7} 80.f7 {+M5/13 1}
>Kg5
>{-M4/9 13} {Black resigns} 1-0
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