Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 02:23:57 09/01/04
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On August 31, 2004 at 19:32:16, Steve B wrote: >honestly i can't understand why Steve clings to the CTF with such fervor ... >you never see the vile language,anti-semetism and neo-nazi postings seen on the >CTF.(not to mention pro-alkeida,anti-US ,anti -Israel etc etc)seen daily on the >CTF >even discussions related to ones faith(Christianity,Muslim,Jewish,etc)generally >degenerate into a screaming ,cursing ,slug fest >its simply disgusting > > > >again i will mention that there are a small few who do attempt to post well >reasoned,informative messages and will reply to a message in an adult fashion >sadly this is the exception rather then the rule > >its like trying to discuss Bach or Mozart while in the middle of a Neo -Nazi >rally > > >this need to be linked up with the CTF is quite astonishing in my opinion and i >guess i just dont get it > > > >Best >Steve First of all, Peter, thanks for your wonderful message addressed to Steve S. In all due shortness I want to object here this strange reflection by Steve B. I know why Steve S. has created CTF besides CCC. To explain it you must not learn a couple of Asiatic languages, it's really easy to realise! CTF is the place where all the CCC members could discuss what they had in their minds. I speak of minds, because that is already what happens with intellectual internet users. Often they feel - what wise men knew already in the ancient past - that one can defend several, seemingly opposing positions in many questions of life. So he we have the core of CTF. It should be the place where the CCC members can discuss all what they had in mind. Of course this includes Anti-Semitism. It's a well known fact that such prejudices are existing on a general base. Logically this is discussed in CTF. But it's also shown that Anti-Zionism is something else - logically. I for one say - with Steve S. on my side - that it is BETTER if people speak out what they have in mind instead that they act as if they had something else in mind. Mozart and stuff like that isn't possible per se without the freedom of mind. Therefore Steve B hasn't understood what he himself has written. Steve S. however knows that freedom of thought is the best base for a democratic open system. Intellectual liberalism in most extreme dimensions!! And that exactly is theoretically the fundament of CTF. While here in CCC the cold-blooded concentration on one single topic and its technology. And I wish all CCC members a happy future here in CCC. All the best, Rolf
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