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Subject: Re: Larsen-Spassky 1970, 12..h4! -> CM10 : 33 sec

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 16:53:53 09/01/04

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On August 31, 2004 at 22:18:40, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On August 31, 2004 at 21:58:14, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On August 31, 2004 at 21:31:33, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>[d]2kr3r/ppp1qpp1/2p5/2b2b1p/2P1pPn1/1P2P1PP/PBQPB3/RN2K2R b KQ - 0 12
>>>>
>>>>12.h4!!
>>>
>>>AMD barton @3000+
>>>
>>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>>0:00	1/8	-0.77	176924		12...Nf6 13.a3 Qe6 14.b4 Be7 15.Bf1
>>>					Qd7 16.Nc3
>>>0:01	1/9	-0.82	427947		12...Nf6 13.a3 Qe6 14.b4 Be7 15.Bf1
>>>					Qd7 16.Nc3 Kb8
>>>0:06	1/10	-0.78	1327528		12...Nf6 13.a3 Qe6 14.Bf1 Be7 15.Nc3
>>>					Kb8 16.O-O-O Bc5 17.Kb1
>>>0:16	1/11	-0.71	4242963		12...Nf6 13.a3 Qe6 14.Bf1 Be7 15.Nc3
>>>					Kb8 16.O-O-O c5 17.Bg2 h4
>>>0:33	1/11	-0.92	8541987		12...h4 13.Bxg4 Bxg4 14.hxg4 hxg3
>>>					15.Rg1 Rh2 16.Qc3 Qh4 17.Qxg7 Rh1
>>>					18.Rxh1 Qxh1+ 19.Ke2 Bxe3
>>>1:21	1/12	-1.75	20461179	12...h4 13.Bxg4 Bxg4 14.hxg4 hxg3
>>>					15.Rg1 Rh2 16.Nc3 Bxe3 17.O-O-O
>>>					Bxg1 18.Rxg1 Rdxd2 19.Qxd2 Rxd2
>>>					20.Kxd2 Qd6+ 21.Kc2 Qxf4
>>>2:43	1/13	-1.72	42207857	12...h4 13.Bxg4 Bxg4 14.hxg4 hxg3
>>>					15.Rg1 Rh2 16.Nc3 Rdxd2 17.Qxd2
>>>					Rxd2 18.Kxd2 Qd8+ 19.Ke1 Bxe3 20.Rg2
>>>					Bf2+ 21.Kf1 Qd2 22.Rd1 Qxb2 23.Nxe4
>>>					Qxa2 24.Nxf2 gxf2
>>
>
>It's the king 3.33 (chessmaster 10th edition) and an AMD barton @ 180 mhz*12
>(2.16 Ghz)
>
>It play 13.Bxg4 in the mainline because it see 13.hxg4 is completely losing
>
>more later ...

I would be very interested in the "more later", if possible. Maybe the computers
which get h4 quick sometimes change their mind, and then come back again to h4
with much more certainty. I've seen that happen from this position.

It might even be that there is stronger variation against 13.Bxg4, and best
would be 13.Rg1.

I'm also still interested about 10....Ng4 and 11....h5, although I doubt very
much in a computer ever playing them, even if they are tactically very great.
>
>>Huh? That's quick!   However, I would be even more impressed if I would see that
>>it found 14....Rh1 or 15....Rh1  from the same position in a short time.
>>Could you test it for that?
>>And what kind of AMD and Mhz are you using?
>>
>>
>>[Later, I would be staggeringly fascinated to know if your computer EVER arrives
>>at the (possibly best moves) of 10...Ng4 and/or 11...h5. If so, I might even
>>propose that computers have almost solved chess!]
>>
>>Thanks!
>>S.Taylor



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