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Subject: Re: Stars Only-5a (at tournament time control, List 512)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:06:05 09/02/04

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On September 02, 2004 at 08:00:57, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On September 02, 2004 at 07:43:29, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 2004 at 15:07:06, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On September 01, 2004 at 11:40:32, Igor Gorelikov wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 01, 2004 at 09:36:17, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Igor
>>>>>A somewhat disappointing score of List_512 with
>>>>>three (3) won and seven (7) lost matches. Which
>>>>>was the book used for Fritz Reul's engine. BTW:
>>>>>great tournamant, please keep up your good work.
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]
>>>>
>>>>List doesn't have its own book, so it plays without book.
>>>>
>>>>Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>Any program without an opening book, no matter how strong it is, will play at
>>>least 40 Elo rating lower. Therefore, please provide List512 an Opening Book.
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>I disagree.
>>
>>If the program can find the better opening moves by search then it can play
>>better with no opening book.
>>
>>It is also possible that a program without opening book can go to positions that
>>it understand better relative to book positions.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Can you tell me which program you have in mind that can play better without
>opening book. I can test your program movei with Dann Opening book, versus movei
>without an opening book. I will not expect more than 45% out of 40 games for
>Movei W/O Opening against Movei with Opening. Now is there any other program
>that you have in mind?
>
>Jorge

I have no specific program in mind and I am sure that with no learning programs
with no book can practically lose every game in a long match after enough games.

Uri

Uri



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