Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 13:47:25 09/02/04
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On September 02, 2004 at 16:12:28, Mike S. wrote:
>On September 02, 2004 at 11:24:50, Rory Nolan wrote:
>
>>On September 02, 2004 at 07:36:57, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>>
>>>(...)
>
>
>>>Kopec's startposition is:
>>>[D]1r4k1/ppR2ppp/4p3/3p4/3P4/4P3/PP3PPP/6K1 w - - 0 1
>>>Is there any engine that manage to take this to a win as White.
>>>My setup was PIII/850MHz with ponder off. hash 24/32Mb and timecontrol 5'+10.
>>>
>>>Odd Gunnar
>>
>>[Event "?"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "New game"]
>>[Black "?"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[SetUp "1"]
>>[FEN "1r4k1/ppR2ppp/4p3/3p4/3P4/4P3/PP3PPP/6K1 w - - 0 1"]
>>[PlyCount "27"]
>>
>>{Deep Junior 8:} 1. g4 ({Deep Fritz 8:} 1. f3 a6 2. e4 Kf8 3. Kf2 b5 4. Ke3 b4
>>5. Rc6 a5 6. Rc5 {[%eval 77,16]} {Deep Fritz 8:} dxe4 7. fxe4 Ra8 8. h4 Ra7 9.
>>g4 h6 10. Rb5 Ke7 11. a3 bxa3 12. bxa3 a4 {[%eval 100,15]}) ({Shredder 8:} 1.
>>f3 g5 2. Kf2 Kg7 3. e4 Kf6 4. Ke3 h5 5. b4 a6 6. a4 Kg6 7. exd5 exd5 8. Rd7
>>Re8+ 9. Kd3 b6 {[%eval 104,23]} {Shredder 8:} 10. Rxd5 Rb8 11. Rd6+ f6 12. d5
>>Kf5 13. Re6 g4 14. fxg4+ hxg4 15. Kd4 a5 16. b5 Kg5 {[%eval 302,19]}) 1... g5
>>2. h4 h6 3. hxg5 hxg5 4. a4 a6 5. Kg2 Kg7 6. Kf3 b5 7. a5 Rh8 8. b4 {
>>[%eval 82,24]} {Deep Junior 8:} Rh1 9. Ra7 Rb1 10. Rxa6 Rxb4 11. Rb6 Rb2 12. e4
>>Rb3+ 13. Ke2 dxe4 14. a6 {[%eval 44,23]} *
>>
>>here are some lines that I let the comps have a look at S8 is the only one that
>>seems to get a clear win from the start position.
>
>But these are just mainlines (pv). For such tests, you'd have to actually
>**play** a game (fragment), to see what an engine really can achieve. Displaying
>a high evaluation does not mean by far yet that, an engine can get a clear win.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl
Yes, this was what I meant. I'm not sure it is too interesting. Maybe one (as
human) shoud stydy this first and then see if one can win with white and draw
with black most of the time against a top engine.
My Shredder-ProDeo test was with 10 games but because the score was +5=5-0 for
Shredder I assumed it was repeating games. When looking at the game now I see
this wasn't the case. Some interesting ideas could be found in the games.
http://norbase.sjakk.biz/pgnlist.php?lang=en&inter=8&column=1&pgnfile=enginematch.pgn
Odd Gunnar
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