Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 04:09:02 09/03/04
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On September 03, 2004 at 05:36:21, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >On September 03, 2004 at 03:54:42, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On September 03, 2004 at 03:09:25, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >> >>Hello Odd, >> >>>For me it just as much an interface question that could interest all programmers >>>who create gui's etc. Also for engineauthors it could be of interest because >>>some bugs/special use of a protocol could be easly repaired in an engine. Like >>>this issue in question, if the engine smell on broken pipe (returning error from >>>read/readfile) it can take the itself down the correct way. >> >>I think so if you look in your own work. >> >>>If the Arena author want to share some of his thought he is more than welcome >>>into this forum. >> >>And welcome into other forums ... >>And this is the problem we have with computer chess fora. >> >>Today we have a lot of fora systems. In the case of Arena (free development, >>everyone can help us, open bug list and so on) it's more interesting to used an >>own forum to do it. We can collect the important messages and have all in one. >>For a bigger programmer team perhaps not interestig but Martin go the way of the >>programming alone and have not to search if he is sitting on his PC and try to >>improved his program. To search in other fora for interesting messages is a lot >>of work. Nothing to do with CCC or other chess fora. I like CCC and other fora >>but the way we go is in my opinion right and we have success with it. >> >>>Also, testing your own creature against beta's isn't something you normaly do so >>>it isn't important for me to have access to the latest beta version of a gui. >>> >>>The reason I don't play with Arena myself is because I almost only play games as >>>human against engines and the nasty deley when you try to move a piece have >>>stoped me to go any further. For the few engnine-engine matches I do I'm more >>>than pleased with Winboard and the Ert tool. >> >>I like Winboard a lot :-) >>Since two years I have not installed WinBoard because I am blessed with Arena. >>It's right that beta versions are "only" actual development versions and not so >>important. More important are the final results, the release version. At the >>moment Martin worked on Arena 1.1 and try to fix only bugs. >> >>I have also a lot of fun with Arena and own games. Used a DGT board and for me >>is important that the DGT clock XP works better. The most important point for >>myself and Martin will do it after the release version of Arena 1.1. >> > >I thought he used the new dgtebdll from dgtprojects. If he want (and not using a >borland compiler because the the samples from DGT should be enough then) he can >take a peek at this file: >http://home.online.no/~malin/sjakk/download/dgtebdllsamples.zip > >>>>This means not that you "Must" send bugs, impressions, wishes and so on. >>>>This means that you can send anything if you have time to make it. >>> >>>Ok, I missunderstand some messages from you. I thought I read that you >>>threatened to delete users that didn't give response some months back. >> >>Yes, this is right! >>Different reasons to do it. The most have to do with an easy administration and >>with security. We have with passwords system a lot of security problems. >>Password sharing is for us not very good and the owner of Parsimony don't like >>it and closed much fora with the reason "Password sharing". It's possible that >>the idea to delete non active members after an half year is not good. >> >>After the reorganisation last year we deleted all passwords, create a new >>concept (ASA) and started again. Today the forum have new ideas and the work by >>the Admins are very good (I am not longer Admin in Arena Support Forum). The >>most important point is the Arena development to make Arena stronger and since >>the reorganisation Arena made bigger jumpings because all is more effective. >>This forum is very very important for us, not for hits or to be the biggest ... >>important for the development of Arena. We have in this forum not to many OT >>discuss, not to many provocations and we must not delete to many messages. In >>the latest years we delete around 3 threads and perhaps 10 messages. >> >>>Odd Gunnar >> >>Sorry for my long answer in bad English ... >>Have a nice day! >> >>Best >>Frank >> >>PS: I know it, Arena don't need your adapter and you have no interest :-) >>No, no just a joke ... your adapter is great for a lot of persons and the work >>you do is really good. You must have some knowledge about the protocols and >>perhaps you are one of the persons to have interest to write with others in a >>group a strong new version of WinBoard protocol III. I believe it must be >>possible to use the screen information UCI have directly with a newer WinBoard >>protocol. > >Ok :) > >I just want to explain why I'm not so keen to participate active in other forum. >My main (free) work for the chess community is more directed towards human >players. >Here is a list what I work active on now: > >http://norbase.sjakk.biz/index.php?lang=en >- I do all the work except creating the games in electronic format, though I >have made some thousand of those too. > >http://vadsosjakk.no/ >- Norwegian chessclub site. I have made all the programming part (php/sql) so a >writer can add articles/picture etc. direct from his browser. > >http://polarchess.sjakk.biz/index.php?lang=en >- My ideas to make a tool for helping people to learn chess. > >A graphical tool to help a webmaster to do web-updates of crosstables etc. under >an ongoing tournament. Eg. add a result and do a click and all is updated on the >web. I havent released any betas of this. >A sample result could be watched here: >http://vadsosjakk.no/vds/04/index.php?page=arkiv&newsid=115 >When a game exist in a pgn-file it is also clickable in the cross-table for >playing through. > >Odd Gunnar Hi Odd, wow ... I read your other message too! All what I saw looks very intersting for me. The webpage looks like great, much better as the Arena page. We have to think about a new design, all is a little bit old and your site is much impressive. I have a longer time no look in your engine and chess develops. In the past I work on Frank's Chess Page ... I am sure ... I know all what you make, have my eyes on every intersting site :-) What you write here is an interesting message for Arena News-Ticker too. Your name is know in the computer chess area and the community will have each of such informaiton. The time, the time ... that's really the problem I have. So much interesting pages and in the past, you know this ... in Norway we had in the past not a really good chess webpage. The most are looking on the big Swedish webpage (forget the name, not longer available since around one year). I got this information from different persons in the first years of my info page. I search in this time links from Norway for my link selection (also not longer available). ... I sent the information to the DGT clock XP in a mail to Martin! Wish you good luck with your ideas, I believe I like all but I have not look in detail. Will do it in the evening, so far the childrens are in the near. Have a nice weekend! Best Frank
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