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Subject: Why Are You Posting All This In CCC? To Win a Lost Arguement?

Author: Daniel Jackson

Date: 19:06:08 09/05/04

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On September 05, 2004 at 21:38:56, Albert Silver wrote:

>>>>Bringing religion into it complicates things even more, and I (almost) never
>>>>discuss religion because I believe it is the most personal choice that a human
>>>>can make, and should not be influenced by anybody (unless requested). Even then,
>>>>guidance should be given with the utmost respect for the freedom of choice.
>>>>
>>>>But, with that in mind, I hope that (if there is any justice and goodness in the
>>>>next world) when Mr. Frohlick does meet his chosen diety face to face, finds out
>>>>how wrong he is about so many things and learns a little something about
>>>>tolerance and compassion.
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>>
>>>>p.s. The Moderators have permission to delete this post, as it is clearly OT,
>>>>along with this entire thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>I think you guys are pretty intolerant yourselves with all due respect: judging
>>>an entire forum on one extremist's rantings. There are lots of nice and
>>>interesting people discussing a very wide range of subjects. Even Extremely
>>>Homophobic Tim has valid and interesting contributions to make on other
>>>subjects. Everyone has their issues, and that is his. I'm sure he can't help
>>>himself. Still, to claim a forum is rotten because of that is ... for want of a
>>>better word: intolerant. No offense intended. Just my 2 cents.
>>>
>>>                                            Albert
>>
>>I never said the forum was rotten. I said that it was "filled with hatred,
>>discrimination and racism". This you cannot argue with (unless you want to argue
>>my use of the word 'filled').
>
>I would argue with that. You see 'filled' in my opinion should denominate more
>than 3-4 members, and I don't see much beyond that.
>
>You'll find Tim, who is declaredly homophobic to the extreme. If  you actually
>take the time to read some of his shorter rants on the subject you'll notice he
>never ever advocates or implies any form of violence towards homosexuals. I tend
>to view it as a form of illness. How else can one explain the massive amount of
>time he must spend reading and writing (and thinking) on the subject?
>
>Mind you, I completely ignore these threads of his, and readily read his posts
>on other subjects.
>
>You have Omid, who will reaffirm his views on the Israeli-Palestine problem at
>every corner. Here too, I tend to overlook them, knowing his slant, and read his
>posts on other subjects.
>
>You have a 2-3 religious nuts preaching God, Jesus, and whatnot all the time.
>Again, I tend to ignore this too. Some like to bait them and drag out long
>arguments on creationism, etc. Since both parties obviously like blowing off
>some steam, that works for me. The epitome of this would be Chandler Yergin and
>Matthew Hull. No big deal though.
>
>Finally, you have your average trolls on occasion in their different shades and
>colors.
>
>Barring the Pro-Isreal and Homophobic threads by the two aforementioned members,
>and a possible troll by the name of Jack the Lad, let's see what is up there
>thread-wise in terms of filling it with Hate, Discrimination and Racism:
>
>Second man after Saddam Hussein is captured in Irak
>Chechen terrorism has Russian roots
>If You're a Terrorist or Terrorist Sympathizer Please Let Us Know..
>For Ignoramus Posters--What Really Happened in the Russian School
>(by Tim BTW - and not on H, D, or R)
>Russian to commit Terrorism
>Al-Arabiya GM: Muslims are main perpetrators of terrorism
>Putin said terrorists had declared WAR against Russia
>
>Note that the number of posts on terrorsim and Russia is unsurprising
>considering the latest events. The news of the day is often the most debated
>subject.
>
>New Luther Movie...!
>Why last hurricane is named Frances?
>Latest TIME poll: Bush opens 11% lead over Kerry
>Good Synopsis on the Chechen Debacle
>Putin Will Now Crack Down Harder on Chechnya
>in USA each year 300.000 people die because they are that FAT
>Who really killed the Russian Children
>Last Minute Promises?
>(about the US elections BTW)
>Will the USA help the Russians
>Smoking kills!
>The Economist = Female Genital Mutilation
>a message of sympathy
>Why would people vote for GWB the drunkdriver?
>Do Arabs export terrorism?
>(despite the title, it comments on the presence of arabs in the Russian school
>tragedy and the presence of Chechen fighters in Afghanistan)
>Modern Europe, Almighty Man and Almighty God
>Harvard Magazine = The Hydrogen-Powered Future
>Harvard Magazine = The Way We Eat Now
>Harvard Magazine = The Benefits of Exercise and the Dangers of Sloth
>how about hurricane FRANCES ?
>Prayer to the Almighty
>why democrats should vote for bush
>World media shows Russian LIES
>Did a plane hit the Pentagon, or a missile?
>
>etc.
>
>Well, I look and look but I really don't see the "filled with hate,
>discrimination and racism". There are a few loud ones, but they really are very
>few overall.
>
>A quick overlook now shows the posts of non-radicals (IMO) such as Bruce
>Moreland, Slater Wold, Ulrich Tuerke, Rolf Tueschen (who has changed quite a bit
>for those with old grudges BTW), Dann Corbit, Stephen Ham, jorge luis borges,
>Deepak Nityanandam, Graham Laight, Ingo Bauers, Thorsten Czub, Peter Berger,
>Amir Ban, Duncan Roberts, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba, Dan Andersson,
>Dimitris Poulos, Axel Schumacher, Ed Panek, Hristo, myself, etc. And of course,
>there are other members who I don't see just now, but are considered regulars
>such as Ed Schroeder, Fernando Villegas, and others.
>
>                                         Albert
>
>
This is way off topic Albert, and just plain silly.
>
>>
>>I then made the conclusion that I would not donate any further to the
>>maintenance of the CCC as long as the CTF is hosted by the same people. THAT is
>>how I make MY contribution.
>>
>>jm



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