Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 01:47:45 09/06/04
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On September 05, 2004 at 23:26:54, Albert Silver wrote: >On September 05, 2004 at 12:23:41, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>On September 05, 2004 at 11:18:44, Mihaly Szalai wrote: >> >>>Hi Eduard, >>> >>>I tried your settings and some strange things happened. > >It should definitely be pointed out that playing with the settings can lead to >amazingly varied results, which is part of the fun in investigating them. The >sheer number of switches and unexplored functions that Ed has made available but >he himself has not thoroughly tested (and thus not included in the default >settings) means there's a lot of room for experimentation. Whether the functions >be on Recalculating passed pawns, King Trposim to passed pawns, Pawn Pressure, >Selectivity, etc. I'm still finishing testing my S&D v.4 settings which so far >are doing better than the default ones against Junior 8. 'So far' meaning 30+ >games at 30+5 using the Nunn2 set. I still think it can be improved but one >thing at a time. > >Here is what my settings give on both positions BTW: > >>>[D]r2b1rk1/5p2/1n1p2p1/1pqPp1PP/p1n3p1/P1P1NP2/1P6/1KBRQ2R b - - 0 27 >>> >>>27...Nxb2? Spectacular, but wrong. >>>28.hxg6 Bxg5 29.g7 Nxd1? 30.Nf5 >> >>First: >> >>Congrats for this nice win Mihaly! >> >>This position is very complicated, and I seems that it is not easy to play >>(Engines have here a Horizont-Effekt too, not only Pro Deo). >> >>I am anyway sure that Pro Deo with my style (and a good tuned opening >>tactical-book, of course ;) can very interesting games plays. But no Blitz! Pro >>Deo is in my tests not a good blitzer, all in all. Timecontrol >30min. or 2h >>tournament-level is much better for Pro Deo. >> >>Here two analyses on my P3 600, and You can see, that the position is very >>complicated. >> >>Best, >>Eduard >> >> >>r2b1rk1/5p2/1n1p2p1/1pqPp1PP/p1n3p1/P1P1NP2/1P6/1KBRQ2R b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Pro Deo 1.0 EN (hash 28 MB): >> >>1...Sxe3 2.Lxe3 >> -+ (-1.78) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00 >>1...gxf3 >> -+ (-3.39) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00 >>1...gxf3 2.h6 Lxg5 >> -+ (-3.46) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00 >>1...gxf3 2.h6 Kh8 >> -+ (-2.46) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00 >>1...gxh5 2.Txh5 gxf3 3.Sf5 Sxd5 >> -+ (-3.29) Tiefe: 3 00:00:01 >>1...gxh5 2.Txh5 gxf3 3.Sf5 Sxd5 >> -+ (-3.29) Tiefe: 4 00:00:01 >>1...gxh5 2.Txh5 Sxe3 3.Lxe3 Dc8 4.Dg1 Df5+ 5.Ka1 >> -+ (-1.92) Tiefe: 5 00:00:01 >>1...gxf3 2.hxg6 Sxe3 3.Lxe3 Dc8 4.g7 Df5+ 5.Ka1 >> -+ (-2.41) Tiefe: 5 00:00:01 >>1...gxf3 2.h6 Kh7 3.Sxc4 Dxc4 4.Dd2 f5 >> -+ (-3.09) Tiefe: 6 00:00:02 165kN >>1...gxf3 2.h6 Kh7 3.Sxc4 Dxc4 4.De3 f5 5.Td3 >> -+ (-3.07) Tiefe: 7 00:00:02 218kN >>1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Dh4 Ta7 4.Sxc4 Sxc4 5.Dh8+ Kf7 6.Dh6 >> -+ (-1.44) Tiefe: 8 00:00:08 1274kN >>1...Dc8 2.hxg6 Lxg5 3.Sxc4 Sxc4 4.g7 Te8 5.Lxg5 Df5+ 6.De4 Dxg5 >> -+ (-1.52) Tiefe: 8 00:00:14 2409kN >>1...Sxb2 2.Lxb2 Lxg5 3.Sxg4 Sc4 4.hxg6 Sxb2 >> -+ (-1.81) Tiefe: 8 00:00:21 3795kN >>1...Sxb2 2.Lxb2 Lxg5 3.Sxg4 Sc4 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.De4 Tf5 6.Sh6+ Lxh6 7.Txh6 Sxb2 >> -+ (-2.01) Tiefe: 9 00:00:28 5116kN >>1...Sxb2 2.Lxb2 Lxg5 3.Sxg4 Sc4 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.De4 Tf5 6.Sh6+ Lxh6 7.Txh6 >> -+ (-2.01) Tiefe: 10 00:00:48 9440kN >>1...Sxb2 2.hxg6 >> -+ (-1.69) Tiefe: 11 00:02:32 33563kN >>1...gxf3 2.Dh4 Ta7 3.hxg6 fxg6 4.Th3 >> -+ (-1.78) Tiefe: 11 00:04:16 57036kN >> >>(Nemeth, Privat 05.09.2004) > >Analysis by Pro Deo S&D v.4: > >1...Nxe3 2.Bxe3 > -+ (-1.96) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >1...gxf3 > -+ (-3.67) Depth: 1 00:00:00 >1...gxf3 2.h6 Bxg5 > -+ (-3.80) Depth: 2 00:00:00 >1...gxf3 2.h6 Kh8 > -+ (-2.70) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...gxh5 2.Rxh5 gxf3 3.Nf5 Nxd5 > -+ (-3.67) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >1...gxh5 2.fxg4 h4 3.Rxh4 Bxg5 > -+ (-3.44) Depth: 4 00:00:00 >1...gxh5 2.fxg4 hxg4 3.Nxg4 Nxd5 4.Qf1 > -+ (-2.83) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >1...gxf3 2.h6 f5 3.Nxc4 Nxc4 4.Rh4 > -+ (-3.09) Depth: 5 00:00:00 >1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qh4 Kf7 4.Nxc4 bxc4 5.Qe4 > -+ (-3.28) Depth: 6 00:00:00 85kN >1...gxf3 2.h6 Kh7 3.Nxc4 Qxc4 4.Qe3 f2 5.Qxf2 Nxd5 > -+ (-3.33) Depth: 7 00:00:00 194kN >1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Qh4 Kf7 4.Qh7+ Ke8 5.Qxg6+ Rf7 > -+ (-3.46) Depth: 8 00:00:00 382kN >1...gxf3 2.Qh4 Qc7 3.h6 f5 4.h7+ Kh8 5.Qh6 Qf7 6.Rdf1 > -+ (-3.06) Depth: 9 00:00:04 3079kN >1...gxf3 2.Qh4 Qc7 3.Qh3 Nxa3+ 4.bxa3 Qxc3 5.Qxf3 Qb3+ 6.Ka1 Bxg5 7.hxg6 > -+ (-3.15) Depth: 10 00:00:10 8373kN >1...gxf3 2.Qh4 Qc7 3.Ng4 Rc8 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Nf6+ Bxf6 6.gxf6 Kf7 7.Rhg1 Rfe8 > -+ (-2.55) Depth: 11 00:00:35 30664kN >1...gxf3 2.Qh4 Qc7 3.Ng4 Qd7 4.Nh6+ Kg7 5.Qe4 gxh5 6.Nf5+ Kg8 7.Qxf3 > -+ (-2.31) Depth: 12 00:01:55 99330kN >1...gxf3 2.Qh4 Qc7 3.hxg6 > -+ (-2.01) Depth: 13 00:06:30 352186kN > >(Silver, Private 05.09.2004) > > Albert Hallo Albert! Man kann nicht eine Position testen, und daraus eine Philosophie machen. Sonst müßte Fritz 8 hier ebenfalls passen (oder?) und in den Müll geworfen werden. Überhaupt: eine Partie oder Stellung sagt garnichts. English: One cannot test a position and make from this a philosophy. Otherwise Fritz 8 would have to likewise fit here and throw into the garbage. At all: a game or a position does not say anything. Best, Eduard > >>Analysis by Fritz 8.0026 (hash 64 MB): >> >>1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Dh4 Ta7 4.Dh8+ Kf7 5.Dh7+ >> -+ (-2.75) Tiefe: 4/20 00:00:00 21kN >>1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Dh4 Ta7 >> -+ (-2.75) Tiefe: 5/19 00:00:00 28kN >>1...gxf3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Dh4 Ta7 4.Sxc4 Sxc4 5.Dh8+ Kf7 6.Dh7+ Ke8 7.Dxg6+ >> -+ (-2.75) Tiefe: 6/26 00:00:00 79kN >>1...gxf3 2.Dh4 Ta7 3.Td3 Sxe3 4.hxg6 fxg6 5.Lxe3 >> -+ (-2.72) Tiefe: 7/25 00:00:01 189kN >>1...gxf3-- >> -+ (-2.43) Tiefe: 8/29 00:00:02 362kN >>1...gxf3 2.Dh4 Dc7 3.hxg6 fxg6 4.Sxc4 Sxc4 5.Dh8+ Kf7 >> -+ (-2.25) Tiefe: 8/40 00:00:04 734kN >>1...gxf3 2.Dh4 Dc7 3.Th3 Sxe3 4.hxg6 fxg6 >> -+ (-2.28) Tiefe: 9/35 00:00:10 2244kN >>1...gxf3-- >> -+ (-2.00) Tiefe: 10/31 00:00:19 4471kN >>1...gxf3 2.Dh4 Ta7 3.Th3 e4 4.Sxc4 Sxc4 5.Dxe4 gxh5 6.Dxf3 b4 7.cxb4 >> -+ (-1.62) Tiefe: 10/44 00:00:30 7230kN >>1...Sxb2! >> -+ (-1.65) Tiefe: 10/44 00:01:36 25190kN >>1...Sxb2 2.Lxb2 Lxg5 3.Sxg4 Sc4 4.hxg6 Sxa3+ 5.Lxa3 Dxa3 6.Th5 f5 >> -+ (-1.75) Tiefe: 10/44 00:01:40 26292kN >>1...Sxb2-- >> -+ (-1.47) Tiefe: 11/36 00:01:56 31077kN >>1...Sxb2 2.hxg6 Lxg5 3.g7 Sxd1 4.Sf5 Sxc3+ 5.Dxc3 >> µ (-1.40) Tiefe: 11/43 00:03:47 61256kN >>1...Ta7! >> -+ (-1.43) Tiefe: 11/43 00:05:20 86897kN >> >>(Nemeth, Privat 05.09.2004)
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