Author: David Mitchell
Date: 04:53:26 09/07/04
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On September 06, 2004 at 22:21:53, Fernando Villegas wrote: >After coming back from some job engagements in some nasty places -you can guess >where- I have became acquainted of two very unpleasant things happening here: >a) the need of some payments or money deliveries from our part to keep this site >working at all. >b) the attacks from some member here to the sheer existence of CTF. > >Respect the first issue, everything has been said and now we only has to put the >money where our written words are. >Respect the second issue, I am in real sorrow to discover that some friends of >mine, as John Merlino and Steven Blincoe, has fallen in the same temptation of >other people that interest me less o nothing, many of them, by the way, just new >members with few or none experience about what this site means. The by now usual >complaint of most the complainers is of being CTF a place where nazism, racism, >ranting, etc are the main stuff of almost every post. Some people even believes >it is an enough reason to ask his demise the simple fact that the name of that >site does not fit with its content. Even there are guys here that thinks they >are entitled to complain and yell and at the same time recognize with the utmost >lack of logic and common sense they does not go there or just once or twice. > >ALL OF THIS IS NO SENSE BECAUSE... > >...because Steven S. and me, fernando,created CTF precisely to give space to >discuss stuff different to the already well fed chess thing. Are you going to >take that into account for even one time or you will continue with the already >tired and non sensical acusation of being, CTF; "non chess related"? >...because people here and there are not just abstract entities coming to >discuss chess or not chess in any place available, but has became, along these >years, friends or at least people that knows each other and want to discuss with >each other HERE. >...because nobody is coerced to go to CTF. >...because the cost of CTF is marginal to the mantention of this site. VERY >marginal indeed. >...because at least HALF the money already collected comes from CTF members and >so there is NOT a case where CTF is or will be kept alive due to the pious >generosity of purely CCC members. >... because its is really LOW to make of Timothy or any other member target and >almost main guilty of the BTW preposterous acusations againts CTF >...because I am afraid many people here talk loud againts CTF just because once >they went there and were badly defeated in his debates or even insulted, yes, >but for any sensate person with a minimal force of temperament and maturity that >are not reasons legitimate enough to kill the entire place. >That is called revenge and it is a very nasty fature. >...because I smell the awful odor of prudish minds lurking here with the usual >belief that his sometimes narrow ideas about what is good or wrong are universal >Kantian moral laws. > >Fernando Villegas >Coordinator and OLD member in all senses. You helped create CTF, and by it's linked presence to CCC, you have, without either our consent, associated it with us. Many of us are aghast at the content of the posts, therein, and do NOT want to be associated with that content, in any way, shape, or fashion. We did not set up CCC with the idea of having such as CTF around. If we had wanted content such as that, we could have stayed on r.g.c.c., (which was unmoderated), which clearly we did NOT want. We don't want CTF around for the same reason you don't put your stinking socks over your nose at the end of the day - they stink, as do a lot of the posts on CTF. No prudishness or Kantian Moral laws need be invoked. You may like to virtually frequent a pig sty, but many of us do not, and do not like being put right next to it, on the server. Dave
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