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Subject: Re: First games with my new style Pro Deo 1.0 ff

Author: David Dahlem

Date: 15:37:34 09/07/04

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On September 07, 2004 at 18:26:03, Murano Lima wrote:

>On September 07, 2004 at 13:34:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 07, 2004 at 12:06:03, Christopher Morgan wrote:
>>
>>>Eduard,
>>>
>>>Interesting results so far.  Please post the settings.
>>>
>>>In recent tournaments posted here Aristarch 4.50 has had very strong results.
>>>On my AMD 64 3000+, 200MB hash, at 40' + 30", no tablebases (Pro Deo can’t use
>>>TBs), I have a 30 game match in Shredder 8 CB GUI, alternating colors, ponder
>>>off,  Pro Deo 1.0 (Rebel 2 setting) v Aristarch 4.50 using the 15 Fischer Random
>>>Chess openings where the king and rooks (only) are in their classical starting
>>>chess positions so that normal rules of castling apply.  CB/engines not set up
>>>to play true FRC, however, by using the 15 selected positions only you do get
>>>true FRC games.  After ten games it’s 8-2 in favor of Pro Deo: Pro Deo 6 wins, 4
>>>draws, and no losses.  Average length of the games is 64 moves which adds an
>>>additional 32 minutes to each engine clock making max game time for each
>>>engine’s thinking time about 72 minutes on average.  I understand that both Pro
>>>Deo and Aristarch play better at longer time controls.
>>>
>>>This match should be a good test of pure engine strength.  So far I am impressed
>>>with Pro Deo’s performance.  I’ll post final results here and make games
>>>available to all.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>
>>     Hi Chris
>>     Aristarch 4.50 does not seem to be an appropriate
>>     opponent for Pro Deo 1.0 as you can see at
>>     [http://www.utzingerk.com/pro_deo.htm]
>>     Kurt
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>I dont understand what you want to say:
>Aristarch is too weak an opponent for ProDeo,
>because it has got only 40% in your little test?
>
>If so, do you think, that ProDeo should only be tested against
>much stronger opponents like Fritz and Shredder?!
>What result but a bad one can be expected out of such encounters?
>Nobody should expect ProDeo to perform better than the best engines,
>playing Shredder it is going to lose, what else?
>
>So i dont see your point.
>
>Sincerely
>Murano

I see your point, and i agree. Unless two engines are exactly the same strength,
one of them will lose. :-)

Regards
Dave



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