Author: Albert Silver
Date: 20:03:30 09/07/04
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> There was a period where one member, who still posts
>>both here and there on a regular basis BTW, began a slew of anti-semite posts.
>
>
>well at least someone admits there are these sorts of posts on the CTF
>if you listen to the folks trying to defend the CTF you would think that the
>posts there are all about cancer research and classical music and friends having
>a sing-along holding hands and singling "row,row row your boat"
>
>i realize this is not the point you were trying to make but it caught my eye
>that finally someone who posts there regularly is admitting to the Rascist
>posting's there(unintentionally of course)
>
>as to the distorted notion that somehow allowing anti-semetic posts to remain on
>a board is an excercise in "free speech" well i guess i just disagree with that
>definition of free speech.
Well, the whole point of free speech is that people *don't* agree with what is
permissible or not. There'd certainly be no need to ensure everyone could speak
freely, if everyone already agreed with each other on everything. The fact is
that people don't, and making sure everyone has the right to their opinion is
what it is all about. Still, I think it is absurd to characterize the entire
forum on a few such threads. Fernando made a good point in saying that in many
ways, the members of that forum aren't merely a congregation of names having
thematic discussions. We are in many many ways a family. As you barely go there,
you cannot appreciate this, and no doubt may think this is some form of
misplaced sentimentalism. It is not. I know quite a bit about a number of the
members not because I have had a beer with them, but having discussed and
partook in discussions with so many of them.
Even the much maligned Tim, whom I also find myself at ends many times due to
his homophobia, is really not the demon being portrayed here. I could tell you
about his oddball sense of humor, keen and knowledgeable interest in astronomy,
politics, and of course his cutting edge sense of politics and foreign policy. I
completely disagree with him on just about *all* of his political views mind
you, but he is a keen debater and not a stupid one by any means, so it can be
quite interesting.
There's Matthew Hull with his eternal arguments with Chandler, and strong
religious beliefs. My, how those two love to go at each other. You could accuse
one or the other of stalking but that would be silly. After all no one forces
them to write 20 gazillion posts to each other trying to prove the other is
wrong. And both are might high-horsed if you get my drift. Chandler got himself
in trouble for his arguing, and is banned at the moment. He'll be back though
I'm sure.
There's Axel with his tales of love lorn, and amazing knowledge of genetics and
biology in general. He is very fair handed and loves a good debate. he is also
very giving and doesn't hesitate to share his erudition in science. in return we
all try to help him with some lady issues, but well, how much help can a forum
be, no matter how well meaning?... :-)
There's Jose Fernando Mendes, the fascinating linkman. He posts links all the
time, many of which are fascinating and I sure wish I knew how he finds so many
interesting one from such varied sources.
There's Fernando, whom all know well here. The Chilean political TV/Radio talk
star, who is feeling the years from his every growing comments on his age (I
*COMPLETELY* disagree with your perspective on this BTW Fernando - Ex: my
grandmother who is 77 years-young). He is one of the most balanced thinkers I
have met, with an amazing sense of perspective and proportion. I strive to be
that way, but he just is. He is erudite, cultured, nice, and always an eye on
the ladies.
There's also Ed (Schroeder), whom you may only know via his contributions to
computer chess, but who has posted there on a variety of topics in great detail
showing the man behind the name so to speak. Other programmers partake there
too, such as Amir Ban (of Junior fame), Ulrich Tuerke (Comet), Omid (Falcon),
Uri, Bruce (with his hilarious tales), etc. Not to mention Stephen Ham,
Thorsten, Leonid, Peter Berger, Graham Laight, Guy Marfan, and others.
In a sense it's funny, but this place is called the Computer Chess CLUB, and it
is called the Chess Thinkers FORUM, yet *it* is much more the club than here,
and this is much more a forum.
Albert
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