Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 22:28:26 09/07/04
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On September 07, 2004 at 18:26:03, Murano Lima wrote:
>On September 07, 2004 at 13:34:04, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 07, 2004 at 12:06:03, Christopher Morgan wrote:
>>
>>>Eduard,
>>>
>>>Interesting results so far. Please post the settings.
>>>
>>>In recent tournaments posted here Aristarch 4.50 has had very strong results.
>>>On my AMD 64 3000+, 200MB hash, at 40' + 30", no tablebases (Pro Deo can’t use
>>>TBs), I have a 30 game match in Shredder 8 CB GUI, alternating colors, ponder
>>>off, Pro Deo 1.0 (Rebel 2 setting) v Aristarch 4.50 using the 15 Fischer Random
>>>Chess openings where the king and rooks (only) are in their classical starting
>>>chess positions so that normal rules of castling apply. CB/engines not set up
>>>to play true FRC, however, by using the 15 selected positions only you do get
>>>true FRC games. After ten games it’s 8-2 in favor of Pro Deo: Pro Deo 6 wins, 4
>>>draws, and no losses. Average length of the games is 64 moves which adds an
>>>additional 32 minutes to each engine clock making max game time for each
>>>engine’s thinking time about 72 minutes on average. I understand that both Pro
>>>Deo and Aristarch play better at longer time controls.
>>>
>>>This match should be a good test of pure engine strength. So far I am impressed
>>>with Pro Deo’s performance. I’ll post final results here and make games
>>>available to all.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>
>>
>> Hi Chris
>> Aristarch 4.50 does not seem to be an appropriate
>> opponent for Pro Deo 1.0 as you can see at
>> [http://www.utzingerk.com/pro_deo.htm]
>> Kurt
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>I dont understand what you want to say:
>Aristarch is too weak an opponent for ProDeo,
>because it has got only 40% in your little test?
What I wanted to say is that Pro Deo seems to do
extremely well (I have seen other matches too) vs
the very strong Aristarch 4.50 and that it could
for this reason not be the best opponent to estimate
the effective strength of Pro Deo. Or in other words:
a match vs a dreaded opponent always produces exceptional
results which can't be taken to measure something. Think
of ex world chess champion Tigran Petrosian who was for
a long time unable to beat Lajos Portisch or of ex world
chess champion Mikhail Tal who had always very bad results
vs Viktor Kortschnoi.
Kurt
>
>If so, do you think, that ProDeo should only be tested against
>much stronger opponents like Fritz and Shredder?!
>What result but a bad one can be expected out of such encounters?
>Nobody should expect ProDeo to perform better than the best engines,
>playing Shredder it is going to lose, what else?
>
>So i dont see your point.
>
>Sincerely
>Murano
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