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Subject: Re: Regarding CCC/CTF relationships

Author: Russel Smith

Date: 06:18:38 09/08/04

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On September 08, 2004 at 04:15:38, Jonas Bylund wrote:

>
>>Dear Jonas,
>>
>>I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has
>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to
>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some
>>drummed-up demagogy. Your contributions and participation in the CCC was not
>>hampered by the existence of the CTF up until now.
>>If it was "a matter a principle", as you seem to want everyone here to believe,
>>you wouldn't have stayed here and read and donated your _time_ to a place (CCC),
>>which is associated with this despicable CTF. Yet here you are and you have been
>>here for a while, haven't you?
>>
>>While your dislike towards CTF may be well founded, your demands and actions, or
>>lack there of, are not.
>>
>>Jonas,
>>respectfully, please stop with the gibberish.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Hristo
>
>You are entitled to your opinion of course, i have said on more than one
>occasion (before donating to CCC was even an issue) that i dislike CTF and that
>i don't like the association of CTF with CCC, reading and posting at CCC knowing
>that CTF is associated with it is annoying without having to pay, but
>contributing for CTF to continue (even if it was just by association) is out of
>the question for me and that is a question of principles wheter you like it or
>not.
>
>"I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has
>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to
>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some
>drummed-up demagogy."
>
>I have only expressed how i truly feel about this issue, you can call it
>whatever you like and disagree as much as you want, but please don't try and
>read something into it that is not there. The fact is that i don't like CTF,
>this does not mean that by default it is a bad place, just my opinion... I do
>not have a vendetta against CTF, but whenever someone mentions this issue i
>speak my mind, just as you are entitled to. I am not hiding behind anything
>here, i am just being honest about how i feel when it comes to CTF.
>
>I never said CTF was despicable, i said horrible, please don't put words in my
>mouth.
>
>Just to be clear, out of principle i refuse to _pay_ to maintain CTF.

Why not just say you do not want to pay a cent to help anyone in either forum.
People in CTF will support those in CCC, and vice versa.

Just because you don't want to support either forum does not give you the moral
rights to trash CTF.

I suggest you like most are a visitor here, where if these forums vanished, you
would not be worried too much. That is how most people here would feel.

If you do not want to pay to keep CCC alive, then don't, but please stop with
the excuses.

Even if CTF was taken away, you still would not contribute with money to CCC,
niether would most people here.

Get down off the soap box please.



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