Author: Russel Smith
Date: 06:27:29 09/08/04
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On September 08, 2004 at 06:00:29, David Mitchell wrote: >On September 08, 2004 at 05:32:31, Hristo wrote: > >>On September 08, 2004 at 04:15:38, Jonas Bylund wrote: >> >>> >>>>Dear Jonas, >>>> >>>>I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>>drummed-up demagogy. Your contributions and participation in the CCC was not >>>>hampered by the existence of the CTF up until now. >>>>If it was "a matter a principle", as you seem to want everyone here to believe, >>>>you wouldn't have stayed here and read and donated your _time_ to a place (CCC), >>>>which is associated with this despicable CTF. Yet here you are and you have been >>>>here for a while, haven't you? >>>> >>>>While your dislike towards CTF may be well founded, your demands and actions, or >>>>lack there of, are not. >>>> >>>>Jonas, >>>>respectfully, please stop with the gibberish. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Hristo >>> >>>You are entitled to your opinion of course, i have said on more than one >>>occasion (before donating to CCC was even an issue) that i dislike CTF and that >>>i don't like the association of CTF with CCC, reading and posting at CCC knowing >>>that CTF is associated with it is annoying without having to pay, but >>>contributing for CTF to continue (even if it was just by association) is out of >>>the question for me and that is a question of principles wheter you like it or >>>not. >>> >>>"I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>drummed-up demagogy." >>> >>>I have only expressed how i truly feel about this issue, you can call it >>>whatever you like and disagree as much as you want, but please don't try and >>>read something into it that is not there. >> >>Jonas, >>we can argue about this for ten hours, here on CCC, and yet you wouldn't send >>even $10. >>I guess your time is worth a lot less than $1. >> >>You are rationalizing your action with your disdain towards CTF. To you it >>doesn't matter what happens to CCC if at the same time the CTF is to stay alive. >>Your "love" and devotion for the CCC is less important than your feelings >>towards the CTF. >> >>This is not my opinion this is what you are saying and doing! If I'm wrong >>please elaborate. > >*************** Gladly ***************** > >Because of the juvenile behavior of a few posters, CCC was formed. Later, CTF >was added as an arena for non-chess discussions by the CCC'ers. > >But CTF has become quite the lair for the most juvenile and offensive postings. > >Now the time has come, and a possible change is being considered. We are >expressing our opinion that 1) CTF is irrelevant to CCC, and 2) CTF is >offensive, and we don't want to be in any way associated with it. > >And all your rationalizations about "drummed up demagogy", won't change that, >even a little. > > > >Dave CTF is not really associated with CCC in my opinion, CTF was dead until Sept 11th attacks, then it stirred up a hornets nest and is still stirring. The two forums are clearly different, and people think CTF is CCC only because they do not bother to read where they are going when they first join, and usually are shown the correct door after their first post. CTF does not invade CCC, so I wish people would just shut up about the connection. As the saying goes "If you don't like it, you can always find something else" People who do not want to help pay for this forum, simply do not care about it enough to want it to stay, but then want to rant about CTF, I suggest if you want to Rant about CTF do it on that forum, and leave CCC to the chess topics. YOu guys say you do not like CTF, but you guys are posting like CTF posters in this thread.
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