Author: otis williams
Date: 07:32:17 09/08/04
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On September 08, 2004 at 10:07:06, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >On September 08, 2004 at 09:45:09, Jonas Bylund wrote: > >>On September 08, 2004 at 09:27:29, Russel Smith wrote: >> >>>On September 08, 2004 at 06:00:29, David Mitchell wrote: >>> >>>>On September 08, 2004 at 05:32:31, Hristo wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 04:15:38, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dear Jonas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>>>>>drummed-up demagogy. Your contributions and participation in the CCC was not >>>>>>>hampered by the existence of the CTF up until now. >>>>>>>If it was "a matter a principle", as you seem to want everyone here to believe, >>>>>>>you wouldn't have stayed here and read and donated your _time_ to a place (CCC), >>>>>>>which is associated with this despicable CTF. Yet here you are and you have been >>>>>>>here for a while, haven't you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>While your dislike towards CTF may be well founded, your demands and actions, or >>>>>>>lack there of, are not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jonas, >>>>>>>respectfully, please stop with the gibberish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>Hristo >>>>>> >>>>>>You are entitled to your opinion of course, i have said on more than one >>>>>>occasion (before donating to CCC was even an issue) that i dislike CTF and that >>>>>>i don't like the association of CTF with CCC, reading and posting at CCC knowing >>>>>>that CTF is associated with it is annoying without having to pay, but >>>>>>contributing for CTF to continue (even if it was just by association) is out of >>>>>>the question for me and that is a question of principles wheter you like it or >>>>>>not. >>>>>> >>>>>>"I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>>>>drummed-up demagogy." >>>>>> >>>>>>I have only expressed how i truly feel about this issue, you can call it >>>>>>whatever you like and disagree as much as you want, but please don't try and >>>>>>read something into it that is not there. >>>>> >>>>>Jonas, >>>>>we can argue about this for ten hours, here on CCC, and yet you wouldn't send >>>>>even $10. >>>>>I guess your time is worth a lot less than $1. >>>>> >>>>>You are rationalizing your action with your disdain towards CTF. To you it >>>>>doesn't matter what happens to CCC if at the same time the CTF is to stay alive. >>>>>Your "love" and devotion for the CCC is less important than your feelings >>>>>towards the CTF. >>>>> >>>>>This is not my opinion this is what you are saying and doing! If I'm wrong >>>>>please elaborate. >>>> >>>>*************** Gladly ***************** >>>> >>>>Because of the juvenile behavior of a few posters, CCC was formed. Later, CTF >>>>was added as an arena for non-chess discussions by the CCC'ers. >>>> >>>>But CTF has become quite the lair for the most juvenile and offensive postings. >>>> >>>>Now the time has come, and a possible change is being considered. We are >>>>expressing our opinion that 1) CTF is irrelevant to CCC, and 2) CTF is >>>>offensive, and we don't want to be in any way associated with it. >>>> >>>>And all your rationalizations about "drummed up demagogy", won't change that, >>>>even a little. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>CTF is not really associated with CCC in my opinion, CTF was dead until Sept >>>11th attacks, then it stirred up a hornets nest and is still stirring. >>> >>>The two forums are clearly different, and people think CTF is CCC only because >>>they do not bother to read where they are going when they first join, and >>>usually are shown the correct door after their first post. >>> >>>CTF does not invade CCC, so I wish people would just shut up about the >>>connection. >>> >>>As the saying goes "If you don't like it, you can always find something else" >> >>Good point!! >>So i choose to go with not paying as long as CTF is sposered by the same company >>that offers CCC. > >Looks like a good excuse for not paying. >But I can do the same thing: I will not pay before it's sure that maintenance of >ctf will be continued. > Good then you can get booted along with the other Scumbags!
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