Author: Ulrich Tuerke
Date: 07:42:19 09/08/04
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On September 08, 2004 at 10:32:17, otis williams wrote: >On September 08, 2004 at 10:07:06, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: > >>On September 08, 2004 at 09:45:09, Jonas Bylund wrote: >> >>>On September 08, 2004 at 09:27:29, Russel Smith wrote: >>> >>>>On September 08, 2004 at 06:00:29, David Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 05:32:31, Hristo wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 04:15:38, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Dear Jonas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>>>>>>drummed-up demagogy. Your contributions and participation in the CCC was not >>>>>>>>hampered by the existence of the CTF up until now. >>>>>>>>If it was "a matter a principle", as you seem to want everyone here to believe, >>>>>>>>you wouldn't have stayed here and read and donated your _time_ to a place (CCC), >>>>>>>>which is associated with this despicable CTF. Yet here you are and you have been >>>>>>>>here for a while, haven't you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>While your dislike towards CTF may be well founded, your demands and actions, or >>>>>>>>lack there of, are not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jonas, >>>>>>>>respectfully, please stop with the gibberish. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>>Hristo >>>>>>> >>>>>>>You are entitled to your opinion of course, i have said on more than one >>>>>>>occasion (before donating to CCC was even an issue) that i dislike CTF and that >>>>>>>i don't like the association of CTF with CCC, reading and posting at CCC knowing >>>>>>>that CTF is associated with it is annoying without having to pay, but >>>>>>>contributing for CTF to continue (even if it was just by association) is out of >>>>>>>the question for me and that is a question of principles wheter you like it or >>>>>>>not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>"I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has >>>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to >>>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some >>>>>>>drummed-up demagogy." >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have only expressed how i truly feel about this issue, you can call it >>>>>>>whatever you like and disagree as much as you want, but please don't try and >>>>>>>read something into it that is not there. >>>>>> >>>>>>Jonas, >>>>>>we can argue about this for ten hours, here on CCC, and yet you wouldn't send >>>>>>even $10. >>>>>>I guess your time is worth a lot less than $1. >>>>>> >>>>>>You are rationalizing your action with your disdain towards CTF. To you it >>>>>>doesn't matter what happens to CCC if at the same time the CTF is to stay alive. >>>>>>Your "love" and devotion for the CCC is less important than your feelings >>>>>>towards the CTF. >>>>>> >>>>>>This is not my opinion this is what you are saying and doing! If I'm wrong >>>>>>please elaborate. >>>>> >>>>>*************** Gladly ***************** >>>>> >>>>>Because of the juvenile behavior of a few posters, CCC was formed. Later, CTF >>>>>was added as an arena for non-chess discussions by the CCC'ers. >>>>> >>>>>But CTF has become quite the lair for the most juvenile and offensive postings. >>>>> >>>>>Now the time has come, and a possible change is being considered. We are >>>>>expressing our opinion that 1) CTF is irrelevant to CCC, and 2) CTF is >>>>>offensive, and we don't want to be in any way associated with it. >>>>> >>>>>And all your rationalizations about "drummed up demagogy", won't change that, >>>>>even a little. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Dave >>>> >>>>CTF is not really associated with CCC in my opinion, CTF was dead until Sept >>>>11th attacks, then it stirred up a hornets nest and is still stirring. >>>> >>>>The two forums are clearly different, and people think CTF is CCC only because >>>>they do not bother to read where they are going when they first join, and >>>>usually are shown the correct door after their first post. >>>> >>>>CTF does not invade CCC, so I wish people would just shut up about the >>>>connection. >>>> >>>>As the saying goes "If you don't like it, you can always find something else" >>> >>>Good point!! >>>So i choose to go with not paying as long as CTF is sposered by the same company >>>that offers CCC. >> >>Looks like a good excuse for not paying. >>But I can do the same thing: I will not pay before it's sure that maintenance of >>ctf will be continued. >> > > >Good then you can get booted along with the other Scumbags! Sorry, have I given any reason to insult me ? I don't think so. Uli
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