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Subject: Re: Regarding CCC/CTF relationships

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 07:42:19 09/08/04

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On September 08, 2004 at 10:32:17, otis williams wrote:

>On September 08, 2004 at 10:07:06, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 2004 at 09:45:09, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>>
>>>On September 08, 2004 at 09:27:29, Russel Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 06:00:29, David Mitchell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 05:32:31, Hristo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 08, 2004 at 04:15:38, Jonas Bylund wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dear Jonas,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has
>>>>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to
>>>>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some
>>>>>>>>drummed-up demagogy. Your contributions and participation in the CCC was not
>>>>>>>>hampered by the existence of the CTF up until now.
>>>>>>>>If it was "a matter a principle", as you seem to want everyone here to believe,
>>>>>>>>you wouldn't have stayed here and read and donated your _time_ to a place (CCC),
>>>>>>>>which is associated with this despicable CTF. Yet here you are and you have been
>>>>>>>>here for a while, haven't you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>While your dislike towards CTF may be well founded, your demands and actions, or
>>>>>>>>lack there of, are not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jonas,
>>>>>>>>respectfully, please stop with the gibberish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Hristo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You are entitled to your opinion of course, i have said on more than one
>>>>>>>occasion (before donating to CCC was even an issue) that i dislike CTF and that
>>>>>>>i don't like the association of CTF with CCC, reading and posting at CCC knowing
>>>>>>>that CTF is associated with it is annoying without having to pay, but
>>>>>>>contributing for CTF to continue (even if it was just by association) is out of
>>>>>>>the question for me and that is a question of principles wheter you like it or
>>>>>>>not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"I have been avoiding to answer to your indignant remarks. Your prejudice has
>>>>>>>transformed into a vendetta, of sorts. The problem is that you don't want to
>>>>>>>contribute money; and that is fine, so long as you don't try to hide behind some
>>>>>>>drummed-up demagogy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have only expressed how i truly feel about this issue, you can call it
>>>>>>>whatever you like and disagree as much as you want, but please don't try and
>>>>>>>read something into it that is not there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jonas,
>>>>>>we can argue about this for ten hours, here on CCC, and yet you wouldn't send
>>>>>>even $10.
>>>>>>I guess your time is worth a lot less than $1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are rationalizing your action with your disdain towards CTF. To you it
>>>>>>doesn't matter what happens to CCC if at the same time the CTF is to stay alive.
>>>>>>Your "love" and devotion for the CCC is less important than your feelings
>>>>>>towards the CTF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is not my opinion this is what you are saying and doing! If I'm wrong
>>>>>>please elaborate.
>>>>>
>>>>>*************** Gladly *****************
>>>>>
>>>>>Because of the juvenile behavior of a few posters, CCC was formed. Later, CTF
>>>>>was added as an arena for non-chess discussions by the CCC'ers.
>>>>>
>>>>>But CTF has become quite the lair for the most juvenile and offensive postings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now the time has come, and a possible change is being considered. We are
>>>>>expressing our opinion that 1) CTF is irrelevant to CCC, and 2) CTF is
>>>>>offensive, and we don't want to be in any way associated with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>And all your rationalizations about "drummed up demagogy", won't change that,
>>>>>even a little.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>CTF is not really associated with CCC in my opinion, CTF was dead until Sept
>>>>11th attacks, then it stirred up a hornets nest and is still stirring.
>>>>
>>>>The two forums are clearly different, and people think CTF is CCC only because
>>>>they do not bother to read where they are going when they first join, and
>>>>usually are shown the correct door after their first post.
>>>>
>>>>CTF does not invade CCC, so I wish people would just shut up about the
>>>>connection.
>>>>
>>>>As the saying goes "If you don't like it, you can always find something else"
>>>
>>>Good point!!
>>>So i choose to go with not paying as long as CTF is sposered by the same company
>>>that offers CCC.
>>
>>Looks like a good excuse for not paying.
>>But I can do the same thing: I will not pay before it's sure that maintenance of
>>ctf will be continued.
>>
>
>
>Good then you can get booted along with the other Scumbags!

Sorry, have I given any reason to insult me ?
I don't think so.

Uli



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