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Subject: Re: Regarding CCC/WCCC relationships

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 13:03:06 09/08/04

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On September 08, 2004 at 14:43:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On September 08, 2004 at 14:14:12, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On September 08, 2004 at 10:06:33, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>Look, it really bothers me, but if you want to improve a program CCC is
>>>worthless after a rating of 2200.  Obviously the commercial guys have no
>>>interest in sharing their secrets (I don't blame them) but somehow their
>>>attitude has rubbed off on all the amateurs.   Uri is a prime example of this:
>>>the guy has 300+ (!!) pages of results in the CCC engine, but he has _never_
>>>talked at _all_ about what goes on inside of Movei.
>>
>>
>>One gets the impression that you would prefer it to remain that way, since Uri's
>>mode of communication grates on your nerves.
>>
>>
>>>We don't even know
>>>something as basic as whether Uri uses the mate threat extension.  I've
>>>basically stopped contributing anything other than periodically smacking
>>>Cracraft.  Bob is really the only one who actually talks about what he does,
>>>although some might say that open sourcing crafty has caused more problems than
>>>solutions, considering all the clones that we have had.  I guess if I want to
>>>talk to good chess programmers I have to show up at a World Championship.
>>
>>
>>Were you told that the pro's share their secrets at WCCC?
>
>The average level of discussion in WCCC is several hundred Elo above that of
>CCC.


Expensive discussion, IMO, especially if you will not learn secrets of the
professionals.  In that case, it is no more informative than CCC, and so does
not solve Anthony's problem.


>
>
>>
>>BTW, good luck with Zappa, anealing, etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>>
>>>anthony



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