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Subject: Re: The CCC Party Faithful you mean

Author: Steve B

Date: 05:13:00 09/09/04

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In fact, this reminds me very much of the
>general feelings on safe sex education. Many conservatives think that discussing
>and instructing on safe sex will somehow promote teen sex, and as a consequence
>teen pregnancies and disease. So they would prefer a gag order. I think the
>opposite and promote education as the best weapon. I can never see silence and
>ignorance as the best strategy. This is much the same.

no its not at all
i have to tell you your analogies are completely misguided
you make a leaping anaology...allowing rascist posts to go undeleted...to ..lack
of sex education...

then you go on to debate this point..with yourself(i might add)
i am no right wing conservative i can assure you
i am against allowing rascist and hateful posts to remain on a board undeleted
and in many cases not even commented on
many times i saw this on the CTF..
you think the posting of hate,exclusion and rascism is somehow a good thing..
i do not..
lets leave it at this

i am fairly certain you and i will never see eye to eye on this

Steve






 You can hardly present
>arguments or discussion if you close up shop on all dialogue. Will there be a
>long line of converts? Hardly, but people do discuss and have the opportunity to
>learn.
>
>In genuine humility, I have. This entire series of threads on the subject has
>really helped open my eyes further on the value of dialogue and freedom of
>speech, even though I thought I understood these concepts well. So in answer to
>your question above, in utter seriousness: Yes, me.
>
>                                           Albert
>
>>do you think this "dig the heels in and close ranks"approach is working?
>>or perhaps simply admitting that the CTF needs more reasonable moderation would
>>be more effective?
>>
>>this are rhetorical questions and need not be answered.
>>actually i myself am a bit tired about trying to explain the reason's why the
>>CTF is perceived the way it is by so many CCC members
>>you guys win..dont change the CTF one iota..
>>donations will remain as it is ,anemic and far less then neccesary to meet the
>>cost..and soon  both boards are gone..
>>i sent in my donation minutes after Steve asked for it,i tried to remedy the
>>issues with CTF.(either de-link or better moderation)
>>i did my share
>>
>>
>>Final Post on this subject  Regards
>>Steve



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