Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 16:08:51 09/09/04
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On September 09, 2004 at 09:58:09, Stuart Cracraft wrote: >It seems to me that the bulk of this board's contents these >days is non-programmer, i.e. "I have this program which I didn't >write and I am going to play it against that program which I >didn't write so I can prove absolutely nothing but look like a >computer chess programmer in the process, which I'm not." I don't understand where are you coming from with this logic. But I have seen thie sort of frustration by programmers with non programmers before. There are some people that simply enjoy watching 'nachines" playing chess. I'm one ofthem and I have no clue why I enjoy it as much I do, but I do. > >Personally, I'd favor a board that is programmer's only. To get >in, you have to have created a program *** from scratch *** >and be willing to talk about it and help otherr programmers >as well. Feel free to set up your programmers board. > >I think there are a lot of onlookers here and while I enjoy that >they get impressed by chess programs I don't like the fact that >they are heightening the bandwidth requirements and will ultimately >put it out of business. How about the programmers heightening the bandwidth requirements? ;>) It is, what it is. > >If ICD keeps anything, keep two boards: one you can keep and which >isn't a bandwidth load: CTF, however horrid and rabid it may be at >times, and the other, a pure programmer's board -- no wannabe's. Why would ICD do that. I have seen some horid and rabid posts by non programmers as well as programmers. Your desire is short sighted. It is the non programmers that actually pay for chess programs - why - because they enjoy it! Some non - programmers like to modify other people programs ->Crafty SE - where do we fit in ? > >With this plan, your bandwidth requirements will drastically drop, >you will keep both core groups happy, and you can jettison the >wannabe's. > >Or conversely, do as above, but let the wannabes on in read-only >mode -- this will also reduce bandwidth. They can read and learn >but that's about it. If they are truly curious about computer >chess programming, they should welcome this (but they won't.) The board was not set up for Computer programming only - it wis set up for EVERYONE who ejoys Chess Computers - even the dedicated models. > >Further, computer chess programmers on this new board would not be >allowed to not post. After a period of inactivity or unimportant posting, >to be determined by the moderators who are computer chess programmers, >a warning note would be sent and the computer chess programmer's account >deactivated, after a lengthy warning interval. ??? Ok - whatever. > >Many like the laissez-faire approach of this board but it is just that >approach that has gotten it into trouble with 1) bandwidth requirements >creeping up from wannabe's, resulting in high expense and 2) losing the focus >on a better original goal of computer chess programmers interacting without >the paranoia that has characterized the field, first in academia and then in >commercialism due to research dollars and sales dollars. The better original goal was for everyone to discuss Chess Computers - chess programmimg is just one facet. > >Stuart
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