Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 22:46:16 09/09/04
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On September 09, 2004 at 13:55:00, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>Hello
>
>Can somebody confirm that DF8 is really considering 29 ... b5 or was that a game
>against a "strange" setting? After 4min and 4 sec DF8 decided to play b5? The
>position is allready very difficult for Black but b5 is suicidal (because of Rd6
>which might be a nice move to find).
>
>[D]4r1k1/p5p1/1pR1p2r/6N1/1q6/n2Q4/2P2PPP/3R2K1 b - -
>
>So b5 is an "avoid move"!
>
>[D]4r1k1/p5p1/2R1p2r/1p4N1/1q6/n2Q4/2P2PPP/3R2K1 w - -
>
>And here your engine has to find Rd6.
>
>Think about deleting all "learn values" out of the search for b5 if you analyse
>the second position.
>
>For those who are interest in the complete game here are both PGNs.
>
>Bye Ingo
>
>[Event "Wertungspartie, 100m + 30s"]
>[Site "Maschinenraum"]
>[Date "2004.09.09"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Shredder 8"]
>[Black "Deep Fritz 8"]
>[WhiteElo "2647"]
>[BlackElo "2611"]
>[ECO "C18"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 c5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3
>Ne7 7. Qg4 O-O 8. Bd3 Nbc6 9. Nf3 f5 10. exf6 Rxf6 11. Bg5
>Rf7 12. Bxe7 Qxe7 13. Ng5 Rf6 14. Bxh7+ Kh8 15. Bd3 Kg8
>16. Qh3 Rh6 17. Qe3 cxd4 18. cxd4 Nxd4 19. O-O Bd7 20. Rad1
>Bb5 21. Bxb5 Nxb5 22. Rxd5 Nxa3 23. Rc5 b6 24. Rc6 Re8
>25. Re1 Qb4 26. Ra1 Qa5 27. Rd1 Qb4 28. Qd3 b5 29. Rd6 Qf4
>30. Rd8 Rf8 31. Rxf8+ Qxf8 32. Qd7 Rf6 33. Nxe6 1-0
>
>
>
>[Event "Wertungspartie, 100m + 30s"]
>[Site "Maschinenraum"]
>[Date "2004.09.09"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Shredder 8"]
>[Black "Deep Fritz 8"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C18"]
>[WhiteElo "2647"]
>[BlackElo "2611"]
>[Annotator ",IB"]
>[PlyCount "65"]
>[EventDate "2004.09.08"]
>[TimeControl "6000+30"]
>
>1. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. e5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. a3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxc3+ {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. bxc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Ne7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Qg4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbc6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. exf6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Rxf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Bg5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rf7 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Bxe7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxe7 {[%eval 11,13] [%emt 0:01:10]}
>13. Ng5 {[%eval 77,18] [%emt 0:03:21]} Rf6 {[%eval 25,15] [%emt 0:04:55]} 14.
>Bxh7+ {[%eval 80,19] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kh8 {[%eval 30,15] [%emt 0:03:54]} 15. Bd3
>{[%eval 72,19] [%emt 0:01:45]} Kg8 {[%eval 34,15] [%emt 0:05:30]} 16. Qh3 {
>[%eval 72,18] [%emt 0:00:03]} Rh6 {[%eval 43,15] [%emt 0:03:52]} 17. Qe3 {
>[%eval 58,19] [%emt 0:01:03]} cxd4 {[%eval 40,14] [%emt 0:02:18]} 18. cxd4 {
>[%eval 38,20] [%emt 0:03:35]} Nxd4 {[%eval 38,15] [%emt 0:05:06]} 19. O-O {
>[%eval 46,18] [%emt 0:02:41]} Bd7 {[%eval 37,14] [%emt 0:03:35]} 20. Rad1 {
>[%eval 25,17] [%emt 0:03:56]} Bb5 {[%eval 52,14] [%emt 0:06:49]} 21. Bxb5 {
>[%eval 69,18] [%emt 0:04:58]} Nxb5 {[%eval 67,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Rxd5 {
>[%eval 100,18] [%emt 0:01:14]} Nxa3 {[%eval 70,15] [%emt 0:05:26]} 23. Rc5 {
>[%eval 76,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%eval 81,14] [%emt 0:03:09]} 24. Rc6 {
>[%eval 76,19] [%emt 0:00:33]} Re8 {[%eval 106,14] [%emt 0:07:06]} 25. Re1 {
>[%eval 153,17] [%emt 0:03:10]} Qb4 {[%eval 117,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 26. Ra1 {
>[%eval 163,17] [%emt 0:02:34]} Qa5 {[%eval 125,13] [%emt 0:03:31]} 27. Rd1 {
>[%eval 165,18] [%emt 0:22:49]} Qb4 {[%eval 190,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 28. Qd3 {
>[%eval 223,17] [%emt 0:04:01]} b5 {[%eval 182,13] [%emt 0:04:04]} 29. Rd6 {
>[%eval 600,15] [%emt 0:03:14]} Qf4 {[%eval 458,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 30. Rd8 {
>[%eval 782,18] [%emt 0:06:19]} Rf8 {[%eval 694,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 31. Rxf8+ {
>[%eval 782,19] [%emt 0:04:33]} Qxf8 {[%eval 722,16] [%emt 0:01:49]} 32. Qd7 {
>[%eval 936,18] [%emt 0:03:24]} Rf6 {[%eval 719,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 33. Nxe6
>{Deep Fritz 8 gibt auf (Lag: Av=0.39s, max=5.8s) [%eval 936,19] [%emt
>0:04:02]} 1-0
Hi Ingo
Do you think this is a good example? I very much doubt
because Black has anyway a completely lost game and
there is no way to save it. Below the analysis of
Ruffian 2.1.0 and Shredder 8.
Kurt
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