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Subject: Re: USCF Rules and Computer Chess

Author: Reynolds Takata

Date: 14:29:14 01/07/99

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 Well in my understanding of the rules you should have gotten a draw even if you
dropped the queen.  I myself ones benefitted from just such a (possible)bad call
by a director.  I had been losing a game, but came back to get a TOTALLY drawing
position Black=K+Q+B vs K+Q+B+P.  The bishops were opposite colors, and i
controlled the queening sqaure with my bishop, even if he did queen(which he
couldn't) K+Q vs K+Q+B is 98% forced draw anyway.  I however was low on time i
got to 3seconds on my clock and called "NO LOSING CHANCE:)!"  The rule then was
that they put a minute or half of your time on a 5 sec delay clock whichever is
LESS. So they put 2 secs on my clock with 5 sec delay and made me play.  I
blitzed out 20+moves, i was moving so fast that my opponent wasn't getting a
chance to hit his clock, and eventually he forgot about punching it.  He sat
looking at the board when the clock goes BEEP(i think the clock calling flag
should be illegal), anyway he had let his flag fall in sudden death, i said flag
and got a WIN, after calling no losing chances!  No one including me thought
anything of it at the time, but later after the tourney(weeks), most of the
directors i talked too thought he should have been awarded a draw, but he never
protested.  This because claiming no losing chances is really the same as
claiming a draw.  It may be however that you had to claim i accept the no losing
chances as soon as you lost the queen.  I have always thought a director had to
make a decision on claims based on which came first?  If that is the case a
person might be able to call no losing chances even if their flag has fallen if
the opponent hasn't called flag(this is yet to be tested:)).

 >My questions are:
>
>1) Does this seem strange to anyone else, or just me? White had the chance to
>accept the draw when black made the claim, but chose not to. Due to the whim of
>the TD either to watch the game (the offer is live) or to not watch the game
>(the offer is off the table), the results of the game changes.
>
>2) Does any of the computer chess programs understand these USCF rules, or does
>the operator of the program have to understand them and attempt to handle them?
>
>3) If any of the computer chess programs DO understand the rules, how much
>effort is it when the USCF comes out with another set of rules?
>
>Thanks,
>
>KarinsDad



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