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Subject: Re: Tournament update

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 14:47:11 01/07/99

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On January 07, 1999 at 12:42:08, Thom Perry wrote:

>On January 07, 1999 at 09:17:32, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>Hi Enrique:
>>Sorry my english, if I use spanish they will say we are conspiring :-)... Now to
>>the point: it seems that the long awaited G6 is a total disappointment. Not good
>>results against other top programs. Are we looking the sad, final product of a
>>chess programming mind of first class? Your impression?
>>Else: Sometime I asked an old good chess programmer of the 80's about  how much
>>time a scientist or technician keeps producing good ideas and he said "for
>>ever". Now I doubt. It seems that in the sciences or associated fields you are
>>limited to a cluster of original ideas you have very early and the rest of your
>>life is the development of them, until exhaustion of potential developments is
>>reached. Could be the case or Lang?
>>Fernando
>
>
>I think too much emphasis is placed on the ratings.  When I look at the
>tournament list, I see 10 great chess programs.  Yeah, if I were a Kasparov, I
>might be concerned about needing to squeeze a few extra ELO out of a chess
>program to improve my game.  You say that G6's results are disappointing?  It's
>still scoring about 40% against all of the other top programs.  Gee, I couldn't
>score 4%, 0.4%, or even probably 0.04% playing those programs set to full
>strength at 40/40.


You are right in that point, but it is not the point. Sure, G6 will get me 99
times of 100, BUT I am talking of his relation with other programs. Sure, all
are strong, but we can compare, specially when the oen was ever the very first
at a great distance appears now in a more secondary position, at east until now.



 I'm a MCP fan.  I would have liked to have seen MCP8 do
>better in the latest SSDF rating list, but I can't say that I'm bothered by what
>some people perceive to be disappointing results for MCP8.  It still plays a
>terrific game, still has exactly the features I want in a chess program...hey,
>it's STILL my favorite chess program.  I find it hard to believe that anyone
>could be disappointed by any of the programs on this tournament list because of
>a rating issue.


I have, too, favourite programs that are not the very top programs -like CSTAL-
but again, the issue is , if you want, not my disappointment -I dont even own
G6- but a somewhat non chessic comment about limits in ingenuity and creativity.
Greetings from Chile
Fernando



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