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Subject: Re: Understanding You Chess, Position

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:06:45 09/11/04

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On September 11, 2004 at 13:18:08, Dan Andersson wrote:

>[D]r1bq1rk1/pp3pp1/2p1n2p/4PN2/1b6/2NB3P/PP3PP1/R2QR1K1 w - - 1 21
> Rizzitano 2485 - Wolfe 2353, Cambridge 1984
> The position is from 'Understanding Your Chess' by James Rizzitano. He played
>21. Qg4!! without realizing the bishop was hanging. One kindly interpretation
>might be to argue that his pattern recognition overrode any calculation effort
>:) I can recommend the book for both humans and as a source of test positions
>for both find and avoid moves.
>
> Here is output from one engine:
>Engine UCI 62 MB 933MHz Cu-Mine:
> 5-  00:00  0,25   Nf5d6 Ne6d4 Nd6xc8 Ra8xc8 Qd1h5
> 5   00:00  0,35   Nf5d6 Ne6f4 Bd3c4 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Qd8h4
> 5+  00:00  0,35   Qd1d2 Ne6g5
> 5   00:01  0,54   Qd1d2 Ne6c7 Ra1d1 Nc7d5 Qd2c1
> 6   00:01  0,41   Qd1d2 Qd8g5 Qd2xg5 Ne6xg5 Ra1d1 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Rf8d8
> 6+  00:01  0,41   Nf5d6 Ne6f4
> 6   00:02  0,41   Qd1d2 Qd8g5 Qd2xg5 Ne6xg5 Ra1d1 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Rf8d8
> 7   00:03  0,19   Qd1d2 Qd8g5 Qd2xg5 Ne6xg5 Kg1h2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5
>Rf8d8
> 7+  00:05  0,19   Bd3c4 Bb4xc3
> 7   00:06  0,19   Qd1d2 Qd8g5 Qd2xg5 Ne6xg5 Kg1h2 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5
>Rf8d8
> 7+  00:06  0,19   Qd1f3 Ne6g5
> 7   00:07  0,48   Qd1f3 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Qd8d5 Re1d1
> 8   00:10  0,41   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 Qe3xb6 a7xb6 a2a3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5
>Bb4xc3 b2xc3
> 9   00:16  0,32   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bb4c5 Nf5xh6+ g7xh6 Qe3g3 f7f6
>h4xg5 f6xg5
> 9+  00:24  0,32   Re1e4 Ne6c5
> 9   00:32  0,32   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bb4c5 Nf5xh6+ g7xh6 Qe3g3 f7f6
>h4xg5 f6xg5
>10   00:51  0,35   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bb4c5 Nf5xh6+ g7xh6 Qe3g3 Qb6d8
>h4xg5 h6xg5
>10+  00:57  0,35   Re1e4 Qd8a5
>10   01:00  0,35   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bb4c5 Nf5xh6+ g7xh6 Qe3g3 Qb6d8
>h4xg5 h6xg5
>10+  01:11  0,35   Qd1d2 Bb4xc3
>10   01:35  0,35   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bb4c5 Nf5xh6+ g7xh6 Qe3g3 Qb6d8
>h4xg5 h6xg5
>11   02:23  0,44   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3e3 Qd8b6 h3h4 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Qb6xe3 Re1xe3
>Bb4c5 h4xg5 Bc5xe3 f2xe3 h6xg5
>12   04:18  0,41   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3g3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Qd8a5 Ra1d1 Bb4xc3 Qg3xc3
>Qa5xc3 b2xc3 g7g6 Bf5c2 Ra8d8 Rd1xd8 Rf8xd8 Re1b1
>13   09:05  0,35   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3g3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Qd8a5 Ra1d1 Ra8d8 Rd1xd8
>Rf8xd8 h3h4 Ng5e6 Bf5xe6 f7xe6 Qg3g6 Bb4xc3 Qg6xe6+ Kg8h7 b2xc3 Qa5xc3
>14   21:09  0,35   Qd1f3 Ne6g5 Qf3g3 Bc8xf5 Bd3xf5 Qd8a5 Ra1d1 Ra8d8 Rd1xd8
>Rf8xd8 h3h4 Ng5e6 Bf5xe6 f7xe6 Qg3g6 Bb4xc3 Qg6xe6+ Kg8h7 b2xc3 Qa5xc3
>14+  35:57  0,35   Qd1g4 Qd8xd3
>14+  38:08  0,67   Qd1g4 Qd8xd3
>14   42:53  0,89   Qd1g4 Qd8xd3 Nf5xh6+ Kg8h8 Nh6f5 a7a5 a2a3 Ne6g5 Qg4xg5
>Bc8xf5 Re1d1 Qd3c2 a3xb4 Rf8e8 Rd1d2
>15   01:01:24  0,83   Qd1g4 Kg8h8 Nf5xg7 Ne6c5 Bd3f5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Rf8g8 Qg4d4
>Qd8g5 Bf5xc8 Ra8xc8 Qd4xc5 Rg8xg7 g2g4 h6h5 f2f3 h5xg4 h3xg4
>16   01:30:44  0,83   Qd1g4 Kg8h8 Nf5xg7 Ne6c5 Bd3f5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Rf8g8 Qg4d4
>Qd8g5 Bf5xc8 Ra8xc8 Qd4xc5 Rg8xg7 g2g3 b7b6 Qc5a3 f7f6
>17   02:37:08  0,86   Qd1g4 Kg8h8 Nf5xg7 Ne6c5 Bd3f5 Bb4xc3 b2xc3 Rf8g8 Qg4d4
>Qd8g5 Bf5xc8 Ra8xc8 Qd4xc5 Rg8xg7 g2g3 Rc8a8 Ra1d1 Qg5h4 Rd1d7 Qh4xh3 Rd7xb7
>
>MvH Dan Andersson

CM9_SKR on a P4-2.4 does very well here, finding Qg4 in under five minutes:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:01	1/7	0.37	287900		21.Qd2 Qg5 22.Qxg5 Nxg5 23.Rad1
					Rd8 24.Bc2 Rxd1 25.Rxd1
0:04	1/8	0.23	630644		21.Qd2 Qg5 22.Qxg5 Nxg5 23.Rad1
					Rd8 24.Bc2 Bd7
0:05	1/8	0.29	829889		21.Re4 Bxc3 22.bxc3 Ng5 23.Rd4
					Bxf5 24.Rxd8 Raxd8 25.Bxf5 Rxd1+
					26.Rxd1
0:10	1/8	0.36	1669620		21.Nd6 Qg5 22.Qf3 Qf4 23.Qe4 Qxe4
					24.Rxe4 Bxc3 25.bxc3 Rd8
0:20	1/9	0.19	3245164		21.Nd6 Nf4 22.Qf3 Qg5 23.Kf1 Be6
					24.Rad1 Nd5 25.Bc2
0:22	1/9	0.29	3741580		21.Qd2 Qg5 22.Qxg5 Nxg5 23.Rad1
					Bxf5 24.Bxf5 Rad8 25.a3 Rxd1 26.Rxd1
					Bxc3 27.bxc3
0:30	1/9	0.42	5092892		21.Bc2 Nf4 22.Qg4 Qg5 23.Qxg5 hxg5
					24.Nd6 Be6 25.a3 Bc5 26.Nxb7
0:34	1/9	0.48	5763042		21.Qf3 Ng5 22.Qg3 Bxf5 23.Bxf5
					Qa5 24.Rad1 Bxc3 25.Qxc3 Qxc3 26.bxc3
					Rad8
0:48	2/10	0.45	7939387		21.Qf3 Ng5 22.Qe2 Bxf5 23.Bxf5
					Qa5 24.h4 Bxc3 25.bxc3 Ne6 26.Qc2
					Rad8
1:34	2/11	0.39	16814366	21.Qf3 Ng5 22.Qe2 Bxf5 23.Bxf5
					Qa5 24.h4 Ne6 25.Qc4 Bxc3 26.bxc3
					Qd5
4:26	2/11	1.26	49626048	21.Qg4 Kh8 22.Qxb4 Qxd3 23.Nd6
					Qd4 24.Qxd4 Nxd4 25.Rad1 c5 26.Nce4
					b6
5:56	2/12	1.25	67051006	21.Qg4 Kh8 22.Rad1 a5 23.a3 Bc5
					24.Ne4 Ba7 25.Bc4 Qc7 26.Bxe6 fxe6

jm



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