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Subject: Re: Shredder8's KRPKR usage (appendix)

Author: Ernst Walet

Date: 11:51:04 09/11/04

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On September 11, 2004 at 14:45:23, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On September 11, 2004 at 14:28:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:53:55, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:50:33, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:34:46, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>Can any one confirm that Shredder8 doesn't use krpkr tablebases?
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - -
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Ernst.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Hi Ernst
>>>>      I can't confirm this. With the 4-men EGTB Shredder 8
>>>>      analysis looks as follows:
>>>>
>>>>      New game
>>>>      4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>      Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>
>>>>      1.Ke2 Re6
>>>>        ²  (0.44)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>>>        =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>>      1.Kf2 Re6 2.Kf3 Ke7 3.Kf4 Rh6 4.Ra3 Rf6+ 5.Kg4 Re6
>>>>        =  (0.05)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>>        =  (0.04)   Depth: 25/38   00:00:19  7946kN, tb=226392
>>>>
>>>>      And with the 5-men EGTB Shredder 8 plays at once
>>>>      [due to EGTB-access] and shows an evaluation of 0.00
>>>>      Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank Kurt for trying, however to be sure with the 5 piece egtb, did you uncheck
>>>the tablebase use by the gui?
>>>
>>>Ernst.
>>
>>
>>      With "Use Tablebases" deactivated, Shredder 8 will
>>      of course not use the 5-men EGTB. Isn't this logical?
>>      Kurt
>>
>>Shredder 8 - Utzinger
>>4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>
>>1.Kd1
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>1.Ke2 Re6
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>1.Kf2 Re6 2.Ra3 Rxe4 3.Ra8+ Ke7 4.Ra6 Ke8 5.Ra7
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 26/45   00:00:13  5450kN
>>
>>(Utzinger, MyTown 11.09.2004)
>
>      Hi Ernst
>      Very strange: under the Shredder Classic GUI
>      it does indeed not work !!
>      Kurt


When you uncheck that option, you only make the gui not using the tablebases,
not the engine. For the engine you have to uncheck it in the engine properties.

And indeed, neither the chessbase nor the uci version does use this tablebase.

Thanks for confirming this!

Ernst.



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