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Subject: Re: Shredder8's KRPKR usage (appendix)

Author: Helmut Conrady

Date: 11:57:20 09/11/04

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On September 11, 2004 at 14:51:04, Ernst Walet wrote:

>On September 11, 2004 at 14:45:23, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 2004 at 14:28:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:53:55, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:50:33, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 11, 2004 at 13:34:46, Ernst Walet wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can any one confirm that Shredder8 doesn't use krpkr tablebases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Ernst.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Ernst
>>>>>      I can't confirm this. With the 4-men EGTB Shredder 8
>>>>>      analysis looks as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>      New game
>>>>>      4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>      Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>>
>>>>>      1.Ke2 Re6
>>>>>        ²  (0.44)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>>>>        =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>>>      1.Kf2 Re6 2.Kf3 Ke7 3.Kf4 Rh6 4.Ra3 Rf6+ 5.Kg4 Re6
>>>>>        =  (0.05)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>>>        =  (0.04)   Depth: 25/38   00:00:19  7946kN, tb=226392
>>>>>
>>>>>      And with the 5-men EGTB Shredder 8 plays at once
>>>>>      [due to EGTB-access] and shows an evaluation of 0.00
>>>>>      Kurt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank Kurt for trying, however to be sure with the 5 piece egtb, did you uncheck
>>>>the tablebase use by the gui?
>>>>
>>>>Ernst.
>>>
>>>
>>>      With "Use Tablebases" deactivated, Shredder 8 will
>>>      of course not use the 5-men EGTB. Isn't this logical?
>>>      Kurt
>>>
>>>Shredder 8 - Utzinger
>>>4k3/8/8/4r3/4P3/4R3/8/4K3 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1.Kd1
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>>1.Ke2 Re6
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>1.Kf2 Re6 2.Ra3 Rxe4 3.Ra8+ Ke7 4.Ra6 Ke8 5.Ra7
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 26/45   00:00:13  5450kN
>>>
>>>(Utzinger, MyTown 11.09.2004)
>>
>>      Hi Ernst
>>      Very strange: under the Shredder Classic GUI
>>      it does indeed not work !!
>>      Kurt
>
>
>When you uncheck that option, you only make the gui not using the tablebases,
>not the engine.

Right. The Classic-GUI uses TBs e.g. for joker analysis and endgame orakle.

Helmut



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