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Subject: Re: Pro Deo at Blitz: re-examined

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 16:35:16 09/12/04

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On September 12, 2004 at 12:36:22, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On September 12, 2004 at 10:07:04, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2004 at 00:52:49, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 2004 at 23:12:46, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>One of the common seen comments on Pro Deo is that it is a poor blitz player.
>>>>I've seen this comment in several Computer Chess forums. However, one can't help
>>>>but notice how unusually quickly it plays compared to the time it has alloted,
>>>>no matter what the time control. At the Pro Deo parameter page
>>>>(http://members.home.nl/matador/engine.htm) there is a switch that allows one to
>>>>have Pro Deo play faster or slower on average:
>>>>
>>>>[Time Control ? 125]            * 125
>>>>[Time Control Status ? PB ONLY] * ALWAYS|PB ONLY
>>>>
>>>>(to activate, one must replace the '?' with '=')
>>>>
>>>>I ran 2 blitz matches using the Nunn 2 set with Pro Deo playing against Ruffian
>>>>1.05 at 5 mins + 3 sec increment, in one set using the default settings
>>>>(September 1st) and in the other using the time control parameter. The only
>>>>other change I made was to turn off all learning (position, engine, book) so as
>>>>to be sure the conditions were identical. It's not conclusive but it is very
>>>>interesting, as 80 games were played in all.
>>>>
>>>>Conditions: Athlon 2400XP+, 32 MB hash, Arena 1.08 GUI, pondering off.
>>>>
>>>>Without Time Control setting: Pro Deo lost 16 - 24 to Ruffian 1.05
>>>>
>>>>With the Time Control setting (at 125): Pro Deo *won* 20.5 - 19.5
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi Albert
>>>     Indeed interesting. To verify if the above has not been reached
>>>     by accident you should run some further matches to compare
>>>     I think. The usage of time is a very important matter and
>>>     if this could be improved with Pro Deo this would of course
>>>     be a benefit to Ed Schröder's engine.
>>>     Kurt
>>
>>
>>I am doing exactly that. As Ed mentioned, it must also be set at ALWAYS and not
>>PB ONLY. I am currently running an identical set of matches against Aristarch
>>4.5.
>>
>
>No.
>
>I advice the (default) PB ONLY setting.

I meant that you said it must be set to ALWAYS to function at all in all cases,
not that you recommended this. As far as I'm concerned, the only recommendations
you make are in the default settings. All others are either not recommended or
still in testing.

                                           Albert


P.S. Just saw the US Open finals. Damn, is Federer good!

>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?387349
>
>Ed



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