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Subject: Re: Score for the Arena Opening Books, so far Wizard-v02 is leading.........

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 03:40:52 09/13/04

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On September 13, 2004 at 06:23:25, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On September 13, 2004 at 02:29:47, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>
>>Jonny 2.70(Different Arena Opening Books)  versus Movei00_8_251s
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>  a. (Wizard -v02)            18.0   to  12.0  = 30 games
>>
>>  b. (Mainbook of Harry)      16.5   to  13.5  = 30 games
>>
>>  c. ( A Runge-v01)           10.0   to  10.0 still running to equal 30 games
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The lower bottom two Openings don't have a chance to win 10 games in a row.

>>  d. (O-deville.pgn)           8.0    to  14.0  in favour of Movei00_8_251s
>>
>>  e. (Trappole_v29.abk)        8.0    to  12.0 in favour of Movei00_8_251s
>>     (Gabriel LEPERLIER Book)
>>
>>  I am now continuing with A Runge-v01 book for another 10 games.
>>
>
> I suggest to play with each book 40 games to start having a better indication
>of what is happening. Or anyway play at least 30 games each book, so you just
>have to play with A Runge-v01, O-deville, Trappole_v29 another 10 games. Then
>your test would start having some value. And by increasing the number of games
>would be statistically more and more significant.

Please take a look at the first two they both have played 30 games, so far with
the A Runge-v01 book another 5 games has been played and I will let it play
another 5 games to total 30 games.

The lower bottom two Openings don't have a chance to win 10 games in a row.

PS: I will give you a hint, the Wizard-v02 has the best performace so far
against Movei :-)

Jorge

> So at the end we would know what book is better. But is really this that we
>would know? Or we would just know what book is better for Jonny 2.70 against
>Movei00_8_251s. And who can guarantee that this book would be better for List
>5.12 too? And what about time controls. If you change the time controls, then
>what is happening. Would the selected as the best book, be the best again?
>
> Unfortunately we can't answer to these questions unless we would make giant
>tests for every combination. Yet by accepting the fact that different engines
>have almost the same behaviour and that they play the same at all time controls
>we would gain a huge amount of time, and by a simple test as yours we would be
>able to know some general things. But the 2 aforementioned facts are totally
>wrong. So no one should say that the "winner-book" of your test is the best
>since this is a (false) generalization.



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