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Subject: Re: Computerschess ELO ?

Author: Reinhard Scharnagl

Date: 05:28:00 09/13/04

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On September 13, 2004 at 06:11:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 13, 2004 at 05:53:39, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2004 at 05:46:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>       Hi Eduard
>>>       You are right. All the computer matches played so far
>>>       vs Kasparov, Kramnik and some others are statistically
>>>       spoken rather meaningless. The best thing to find out
>>>       real strength of computer programs would be to let
>>>       participate them at mixed tournaments where programs
>>>       are not allowed to change parameters and opening book
>>>       lines every day and where they will have to fight many
>>>       different opponents.
>>>       Kurt
>>
>>Hi Kurt,
>>
>>that would be nearly the right way. But because of the limited brain of
>>a human being and the rule not to be allowed to use any scripts or book
>>material during a game, the computer programs should also be limited in
>>its usage of persistent data. I have written on that and often mentioned.
>>
>>Regards, Reinhard.
>
>I remember your proposal
>
>I think that it is better to have also tournaments when you limit the size of
>the data and the hardware but do not prevent programmers to change the program
>during the tournament.
>
>There should be basically 4 types of torunaments of computers against humans so
>everybody is going to be happy:
>
>1)Tournaments with no limitations about hardware and no limitation about
>changing software.
>
>2)Tournaments with no limitation about hardware but programmers are not allowed
>to change the software during the tournament.
>
>3)Tournaments with limitations about hardware(including size of the program) but
>no limitation about changing the software during the tournament.
>
>4)Tournaments with limitations about hardware(including size of the program)
>when programmers are not allowed to change the software during the tournament.
>
>Uri

Hi Uri,

I do not at all want to shrink possible kinds of tournaments.

But the question has been, when tournament results should be ELO relevant and
then being compared to human ELOs.

Reinhard.





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