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Subject: Re: Test position (AT 2004)

Author: Christopher Morgan

Date: 16:38:56 09/14/04

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On September 14, 2004 at 17:22:19, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>To avoid is the move 12.Qxc6 as played in the game
>List 5.12 vs Crafty 19.15 WB after which White soon
>got a lost position. Which engines do it better?
>A position from our AT 2004 (90m+30s) tournament
>[http://www.utzingerk.com/at_2004.htm]
>[D]r1b2rk1/p1p1q1pp/2pb4/3n1p2/4p3/PP2PN2/1BQP1PPP/RN2K2R w KQ - 0 12
>
>
><b>In unregelmässiger Folge zeige ich hier spannende/besondere/kuriose
>Partien aus dem laufenden <a href="http://www.utzingerk.com/at_2004.htm"
>target=_top>AT 2004 (90m+30s) Turnier</a>. Dieses Mal bringe ich
>eine Partie zwischen List 5.12 und Crafty 19.15 WB
>aus der Runde 3.7 wo Weiss gierig einen Bauern schnappt und
>dann gnadenlos untergeht. Wer vermeidet den Fehler?</b>
>
>
>
>[Event "AT 2004  Ath 1.3/64  90m+30s"]
>[Site "Zurich"]
>[Date "2004.08.07"]
>[Round "3.7"]
>[White "List 512"]
>[Black "Crafty-19.15"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A01"]
>[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "r1b2rk1/p1p1q1pp/2pb4/3n1p2/4p3/PP2PN2/1BQP1PPP/RN2K2R w KQ - 0 12"]
>[PlyCount "29"]
>
>12. Qxc6 {Grabbing this pawn is very bad; Dieser Bauernraub ist sehr schlecht}
>Nf4 {An easy but nice looking move; Ein leichter aber huebsch anzusehender Zug}
>13. exf4 exf3+ 14. Kd1 {Forced; Erzwungen} (14. Kf1 Qe2+ 15. Kg1 Qe1#) 14...
>Be6 (14... fxg2 15. Qxa8 gxh1=Q+ 16. Qxh1 Be6 {
>is another winning line; waere eine andere Gewinnvariante}) 15. Qxf3 Rab8 {
>Due to the much better development and the fact that List's king stands very
>unsafe, Crafty being two pawns down can easiliy win the game; Aufgrund der
>besseren Entwicklung und dem Umstand, dass der Koenig von List unsicher steht,
>kann Crafty trotz seiner zwei Minusbauern die Partie leichtgewinnen} 16. b4 c5
>17. Bc3 {Too materialist and 17.Nc3 was a better defence; Zu materialistisch,
>denn 17.Sc3 ist eine bessere Verteidigung} Bb3+ 18. Kc1 Rfc8 19. bxc5 Bxc5 20.
>h3 Qd7 21. Re1 Bxf2 22. Re5 Bd4 23. a4 Bxe5 24. fxe5 Bxa4 25. Rxa4 Qxa4 26.
>Qd5+ 0-1
>
>
>
>
>********************Hier die komplette Partie:**************
>
>[Event "AT 2004  Ath 1.3/64  90m+30s"]
>[Site "Zurich"]
>[Date "2004.08.07"]
>[Round "3.7"]
>[White "List 512"]
>[Black "Crafty-19.15"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "A01"]
>[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
>[PlyCount "51"]
>
>1. b3 e5 2. Bb2 Nc6 3. c4 Nf6 4. e3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. a3 Bd6 7. Qc2 O-O 8. Nf3
>Qe7 {Black last book move} 9. Bd3 f5 10. Bb5 {White last book move} e4 11. Bxc6
>{The beginning of a wrong plan; Die damit eingeleiteten Verwicklungen gehen
>voll in die Hosen} bxc6 12. Qxc6 {
>Grabbing this pawn is very bad; Dieser Bauernraub ist sehr schlecht} Nf4 {
>An easy but nice looking move; Ein leichter aber huebsch anzusehender Zug} 13.
>exf4 exf3+ 14. Kd1 {Forced; Erzwungen} (14. Kf1 Qe2+ 15. Kg1 Qe1#) 14... Be6 (
>14... fxg2 15. Qxa8 gxh1=Q+ 16. Qxh1 Be6 {
>is another winning line; waere eine andere Gewinnvariante}) 15. Qxf3 Rab8 {
>Due to the much better development and the fact that List's king stands very
>unsafe, Crafty being two pawns down can easiliy win the game; Aufgrund der
>besseren Entwicklung und dem Umstand, dass der Koenig von List unsicher steht,
>kann Crafty trotz seiner zwei Minusbauern die Partie leichtgewinnen} 16. b4 c5
>17. Bc3 {Too materialist and 17.Nc3 was a better defence; Zu materialistisch,
>denn 17.Sc3 ist eine bessere Verteidigung} Bb3+ 18. Kc1 Rfc8 19. bxc5 Bxc5 20.
>h3 Qd7 21. Re1 Bxf2 22. Re5 Bd4 23. a4 Bxe5 24. fxe5 Bxa4 25. Rxa4 Qxa4 26.
>Qd5+ 0-1


On AMD 64 3000+, 200MB hash, Shredder 8 likes Nd4 after O (zero) seconds, and
keeps it through 5 minutes.  Pro Deo 1, default, sticks with Qxc6 for 26
seconds, then switches to Nd4, 13 ply. And sticks with it through 8 minutes.  S8
analysis follows, then Pro Do 1.:


(A, MyTown 14.09.2004)
New game
r1b2rk1/p1p1q1pp/2pb4/3n1p2/4p3/PP2PN2/1BQP1PPP/RN2K2R w KQ - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 8:

12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4
  &#956;  (-1.06)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00  36kN
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc4 Qh5 16.Nc3 Nb6 17.d3 exd3 18.Qxd3 Rad8
19.Nd5 Nxc4 20.bxc4



New game
r1b2rk1/p1p1q1pp/2pb4/3n1p2/4p3/PP2PN2/1BQP1PPP/RN2K2R w KQ - 0 1

Analysis by Pro Deo 1.0:

12.0-0 exf3 13.Qxc6
  -+  (-1.79)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
12.Qxc6
  ±  (1.18)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
12.Qxc6 Be6
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
12.Qxc6 Be6 13.Ne5
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
12.Qxc6 Be6 13.Ne5 Rab8
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qh4
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nb5 Ba6 14.Qc4 Bxb5
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
12.Qxc6
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
12.Qxc6 Nb6 13.Nd4 Bd7 14.Qb7
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
12.Qxc6 Nb6 13.Nd4 Ba6 14.Nb5 Be5
  =  (0.11)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  40kN
12.Qxc6 Nb6 13.Nd4 Ba6 14.g3 Rad8 15.Nc3
  =  (0.07)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  88kN
12.Qxc6 Nf4 13.Qxa8 exf3 14.Bd4 fxg2 15.Rg1 Be6
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  231kN
12.Qxc6 Nf4 13.Qxa8 exf3 14.Kd1 fxg2 15.Re1 Be6 16.Qb7 Bd5 17.Qxa7
  =  (-0.04)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  575kN
12.Qxc6 Nf4 13.Qxa8 exf3 14.Kd1 fxg2 15.Re1 Be6 16.Qb7 Bd5 17.Qxa7
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  1177kN
12.Qxc6 Nb6 13.Nd4 Bd7 14.Qc2 c5 15.Ne2 Bc6 16.Nbc3 Rad8
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 11   00:00:05  4650kN
12.Qxc6 Nb6 13.Nd4 Bd7 14.Qc2 c5 15.Ne2 Bb5 16.Nbc3 Bd3 17.Qc1 Rad8
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 12   00:00:09  8173kN
12.Qxc6 Nf4 13.Qxa8 Nd3+ 14.Kf1 Nxb2 15.Qxa7 exf3 16.gxf3 Nd3
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 13   00:00:20  19615kN
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc3 Qh5 16.Nc4 Nb6 17.d3 Nxc4 18.dxc4
  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 13   00:00:26  25710kN
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qg5 14.g3
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 14   00:01:21  73486kN
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe6
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 15   00:02:45  153538kN
12.Nd4 c5 13.Nc6 Qe8 14.Na5 Ba6 15.Nc3 Nb6 16.Rc1
  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 16   00:08:00  454301kN

(A, MyTown 14.09.2004)

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