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Subject: Re: singular extension

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 15:15:33 09/15/04

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>>>Hsu's paper defined singular extensiosn for PV nodes and CUT nodes.  His paper
>>>said "we have found no useful definition for a singular move at an ALL node
>>>however.."
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>>Hmm isn't the definition simply that there is one move which is by a certain
>>amount better than all others, independent on pv-, cut- and all-node?
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>No.  There is a precise definition of a singular move, but the test is only
>defined for PV and CUT nodes.  At an ALL node there is absolutely no way to
>determine if one move is better than all others.

Maybe with fail soft and altered zero window bounds to check for one
 score > alpha - SMALL_MARGIN
while all others are far below
 score <= alpha - BIG_MARGIN


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>>Probably the forced situation, that there is only _one_ move  (e.g. becomes
>>alpha while all others are less alpha-margin), makes it worth to look deeper to
>>look whether the all-node becomes a singular cut node or improves alpha, with
>>possible influence at the root.
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>That test won't work.  Tests where the value is <= alpha or <= alpha-margin are
>really meaningless in the context of alpha/beta/minmax search.  That is why they
>could not define a workable test for singularity at ALL nodes.

I see.

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