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Subject: Re: The Greatest Player Never to Become World Champion

Author: Joseph Merolle

Date: 22:45:17 09/15/04

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On September 15, 2004 at 23:19:46, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On September 15, 2004 at 23:01:10, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2004 at 22:38:50, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On September 15, 2004 at 22:20:27, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 15, 2004 at 21:47:13, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 15, 2004 at 21:36:11, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Most say this person is Viktor Korchnoi however although not a popular vote I
>>>>>>think this person by far is Yassar Seirawan! Yassar stoped both Kaspy , Karpov,
>>>>>>and crushed Viktor Korchnoi. I think people just vote for their underdog rather
>>>>>>then looking at facts and who the better players really are. I should add
>>>>>>Kasparov was in his prime when Yassar beat him (more then once) back when no one
>>>>>>could tauch him. Love to here your agreement or disagrement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yassar Come out of Retirement with the Fide Knox outs you still have a chance to
>>>>>>bring the title back to USA! All in agreement say I.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards JAMerolle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO , it is Korchnoi- but I thing Yassar is a terrific player.  Unfortunately ,
>>>>>he is not quite there.  The truth is Yassar never even cracked the top 10 for
>>>>>one year let alone the top 2 or 3.  Contrast that to Viktor who was in the top
>>>>>ten for 25 consecutive years.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/PL/PL36683.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.chessmetrics.com/PL/PL20573.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>When Yassar played Viktor , Viktor was a mere shadow of his best days in chess.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Your proving my point Yassar Crushed Viktor when he was at the top of his game
>>>>in the 80s. YOu have to look beyound rating lists, ratings dont reflect the
>>>>better player if they did Kaspy would be world champion and would have beaten
>>>>Kram. Hay but thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>>I'm glad you think so ;>)  My database shows that Korchnoi has a winning record
>>>against Yassy at LTC (excluding rapid games).
>>>
>>>Also,  Korchnoi was near his best in the 60's and 70's - not the 80's.
>>>
>>>Seirawan is a maybe a top 50 for his time period.  Best player ever not to win a
>>>world champion - he is not in the running.
>>
>>I agree with you on all counts. He is a supremely talented player by all means,
>>but best player never to be WC?? He is not even in my list of top 20 such
>>players. He never even reached the top 10 players on the rating list for a year
>>(was he at any time at all?), much less the top 5 or even the best player to not
>>be WC.
>>
>>Top 5 players to never be WC in my opinion (the order is not necessarily exact):
>>
>>1) Korchnoi (he is my top pick by far)
>>2) Keres
>>3) Bronstein
>>4) Reshevsky
>>5) Rubinstein
>>
>
>I think you nailed the top 5 contenders for the best non WC chess player right
>there - at least for the 20th century.  Reshevsky really got the short end of
>the stick as the Russians were basically allowed to exclude him from the process
>once they got control of the title.  But my vote is still with VK for best all
>time.



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