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Subject: Re: singular extension

Author: martin fierz

Date: 07:06:46 09/16/04

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On September 16, 2004 at 09:53:14, Robert Hyatt wrote:

[snip]

ok,ok, i believe you. i just never saw anybody here saying it worked for them,
but i distinctly remembered people saying it didn't work for them.

>Bruce has reported _lots_ of test data here in CCC.  Including ECM results with
>and without, etc...

but... do you really believe a tactical test set like ECM is the right way to
test SE? and what about the question pham already posted:

in http://www.brucemo.com/compchess/programming/extensions.htm#singular
bruce wrote the stuff below in 2001 - not very enthusiastic about SE if you ask
me! i probably based my anti-SE-bias in part on this without remembering where i
had it from, i read bruce's pages a long time ago.

cheers
  martin


"Singular extension
This extension is the search heuristic centerpiece of Deep Thought, the
strongest computer chess player of the 1980's, and precursor to Deep Blue.

The idea is that if one move is significantly better than all of the other moves
(a singular move), it should be extended.

This can be interpreted as a more general case of the recapture and single
response extensions.  It encompasses these, but also can be used in cases where
the singular move is not a recapture and where the side making the move isn't in
check.

I don't know why it worked in DT, but it seems to me that this is a loss-seeking
extension.

I have never seen anyone claim in an article to be able to get good results with
this extension, so for academic purposes I think this is unproven.  I've played
with it myself and had some success in getting it to solve tactical problems
faster.

The down side is that you get less general-case depth when you use this, because
you have to do extra searches to test for singularity."





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