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Subject: Re: The Brick Wall

Author: Bryan Hofmann

Date: 11:25:43 09/19/04

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On September 19, 2004 at 12:54:57, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On September 19, 2004 at 11:10:14, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>
>>Hi -- I am looking for 2 or 3 beta testers who would receive
>>(full) source code to my program and in return would provide
>>input and comments about improving the search. They would
>>simply agree not to redistribute it and in fact discard it after
>>a week or two of looking at it (and commenting.) The program is in C,
>>5000 lines. The search and quiescence routines are 600 lines total.
>>
>>The reason I am considering this is due to hitting a brick wall at 249/300
>>on WAC for several weeks now and knowing there are things I just cannot
>>find or go further with. The above score is at 1 second per position on a
>>1ghz P3 with a small transposition table. I am told that 270-300 is considered
>>"good" for this time control on this test. On this same machine
>>at the same time setting, with WAC, Crafty gets 270/300.
>>
>
>It strikes me that comparing your program with crafty (or any other program for
>that matter) based on 1 second searches in WAC is a bit weird. And a waste of
>time. I'm pretty sure, for example, that my program would do worse at WAC 1
>second searches than yours on that hardware and I certainly don't care either
>way.
>
>Solving WAC positions is a *side-effect* of being a good program, in my opinion.
>I would strongly encourage you to play some games. Is your program WinBoard
>compatible? If so, send it to Leo Dijksman, Guenther Simon and lots of the other
>good testers who hang out at Winboard Forum.

That would be asking the same people he insulted a few weeks ago calling them
Have Nots and that they should be excluded from the CCC as they did not program
chess engines. This is nothing more then a lackadaisical attempt to get someone
to fix his code from him. As far as I'm concerned the Brick Wall can fall on him
and his holier than tho attitude.






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