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Subject: Re: Crafty v18.02-19.17.exe under chessbase gui.

Author: Norm Pollock

Date: 11:28:48 09/19/04

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On September 19, 2004 at 13:56:05, Joshua Haglund wrote:

>I have a question to all that have used Crafty.exe, must be the executable, and
>not the chessbase .eng version.
>
>Under my chessbase gui, any Crafty.exe version before 18.02... 18.01 works fine,
>so does all the 17's and 16.19.
>
>Now, anything for sure in my chessbase gui, from the .exe version 18.03 onward
>has a problem with evaluations.
>
>Example: d2d4 Nf6 f2f4 d7d5 e2e4?? (blundered pawn) dxe4.
>
>rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/5n2/8/3PpP2/8/PPP3PP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Crafty 19.17:
>
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Be3 Bf5 8.g4 Bd7
>  µ  (-1.02)   Depth: 9/12   00:00:01  713kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nf6 7.Be3 Na6 8.Nc3 Nb4
>  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 10/15   00:00:02  1653kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Nc3 N8a6 8.Be3 Bf5 9.g4 Bg6
>  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 11/16   00:00:07  6129kN
>
>This is the .eng file from Chessbase. It works fine.
>
>Now here is the .exe version of Crafty under the Chessbase gui.
>
>rnbqkb1r/ppp1pppp/5n2/8/3PpP2/8/PPP3PP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Crafty 19.17:
>
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Be3 Bf5 8.g4 Bd7
>  ±  (1.02)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  405kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Be3 Bf5 8.g4 Bd7
>  ±  (1.02)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  480kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nf6 7.Be3 Na6 8.Nc3 Nb4 9.Nh3 Bxh3 10.gxh3
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 10   00:00:01  1237kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nf6 7.Be3 Na6 8.Nc3 Nb4 9.Nh3 Bxh3 10.gxh3
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 10   00:00:02  2581kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Nc3 N8a6 8.Be3 Bf5 9.g4 Bg6
>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 11   00:00:05  5007kN
>4...c6 5.Be2 Nd5 6.c4 Nb4 7.Nc3 N8a6 8.Be3 Bf5 9.g4 Bg6
>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 11   00:00:06  6328kN
>
>As you can see, the analysis is the just the opposite. Saying White is ahead
>just after blundering a pawn.
>
>Any .exe version prior to 18.02, (ex: 18.01, 17.01, 16.19...) works fine. Every
>.exe version after 18.01 has the problem with the evaluations being opposite.
>This causing it to resign when actually it's winning.
>
>What I ask of you is to try it under your chessbase gui, (old & new) and reply
>here with your results, Please!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Joshua Haglund
>toneewa@yahoo.com

I don't know if this is relevant. But in using crafty 19.17, the exe version in
the fritz8 gui, I add the following into the options section of wb2uci.eng:

WhiteScore=true

This way the evaluation is with respect to white. ie +1.00 means white is up a
pawn; -1.00 means black is up a pawn, regardless of crafty's color. Otherwise
the evaluation given is relative to crafty's color, not to white.

I also do it for Aice and perhaps another engine which I do not remember.



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