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Subject: Re: The Brick Wall

Author: Roger D Davis

Date: 11:39:43 09/19/04

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On September 19, 2004 at 14:25:43, Bryan Hofmann wrote:

>On September 19, 2004 at 12:54:57, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>On September 19, 2004 at 11:10:14, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>>
>>>Hi -- I am looking for 2 or 3 beta testers who would receive
>>>(full) source code to my program and in return would provide
>>>input and comments about improving the search. They would
>>>simply agree not to redistribute it and in fact discard it after
>>>a week or two of looking at it (and commenting.) The program is in C,
>>>5000 lines. The search and quiescence routines are 600 lines total.
>>>
>>>The reason I am considering this is due to hitting a brick wall at 249/300
>>>on WAC for several weeks now and knowing there are things I just cannot
>>>find or go further with. The above score is at 1 second per position on a
>>>1ghz P3 with a small transposition table. I am told that 270-300 is considered
>>>"good" for this time control on this test. On this same machine
>>>at the same time setting, with WAC, Crafty gets 270/300.
>>>
>>
>>It strikes me that comparing your program with crafty (or any other program for
>>that matter) based on 1 second searches in WAC is a bit weird. And a waste of
>>time. I'm pretty sure, for example, that my program would do worse at WAC 1
>>second searches than yours on that hardware and I certainly don't care either
>>way.
>>
>>Solving WAC positions is a *side-effect* of being a good program, in my opinion.
>>I would strongly encourage you to play some games. Is your program WinBoard
>>compatible? If so, send it to Leo Dijksman, Guenther Simon and lots of the other
>>good testers who hang out at Winboard Forum.
>
>That would be asking the same people he insulted a few weeks ago calling them
>Have Nots and that they should be excluded from the CCC as they did not program
>chess engines. This is nothing more then a lackadaisical attempt to get someone
>to fix his code from him. As far as I'm concerned the Brick Wall can fall on him
>and his holier than tho attitude.

LMAO!



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