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Subject: Re: Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition Beta1

Author: martin fierz

Date: 22:30:39 09/19/04

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On September 19, 2004 at 23:21:28, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On September 19, 2004 at 22:23:04, Joshua Haglund wrote:
>
>>How come when compiling Crafty, windows.h isn't included in the ./include
>>folder? I had to copy that and dozens of others from my VC98 (6.0) ./include
>>folder to compile Crafty.
>>
>>Also, what does everyone use for optimizations? /G7 doesn't work??
>>
>>Joshua Haglund
>>toneewa@yahoo.com
>
>Windows.h, all the libraries and documentation is part of platform SDK that is
>available for free download as well. See
>http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/platformsdk/sdkupdate/
>
>Instructions how to use Express Edition with Platform SDK are located at
>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/usingpsdk/default.aspx.

i followed all of those instructions, and i still have to set certain things
manually in my projects :-(
the logic (i know it's not yours)...

>I asked why it was done this way, and the answer was "Express Edition is
>relatively small download. It is sufficient for lot of users who want to either
>write .NET code, or use only Standard C/C++ features. Platform SDK is available
>as a separate download for years, and there is link to Platform SDK download
>from Visual C++ Express Edition start page".

...seems quite flawed: if you have a cable modem, you don't care how much you
download. without a cable modem the whole thing is too large to download anyway.

BTW, do you know when the release of this product is expected? i like the beta
very much!

cheers
  martin



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