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Subject: Re: Here's a Mate Problem ... TK after 8h Mate in 20 Moves...It Appears.

Author: Daniel Jackson

Date: 14:03:51 09/21/04

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On September 21, 2004 at 02:25:00, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On September 20, 2004 at 18:10:09, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On September 20, 2004 at 10:53:42, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>>>On September 19, 2004 at 17:46:14, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 19, 2004 at 16:13:16, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 19, 2004 at 02:21:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 19, 2004 at 02:11:37, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On September 18, 2004 at 15:59:24, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[D]rnbqkbnr/qqqqqqqq/8/8/8/8/QQQQQQQQ/RNBQKBNR w
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So far, on ply 3 (85,070,720 nodes) Shredder 7.04 on a 2.2 GHz 64 bit AMD
>>>>>>>machine with 400 MB hash -- likes Qf2xf7+ with a score of +10.15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I set it for 100,000 seconds and we'll see what it says on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Finished ply 4 in about 11 minutes (br.f.~3) with the same key move and a score
>>>>>>of about +9 pawns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I estimate that it will finish ply 8 or 9.
>>>>>
>>>>>I appreciate the effort! Thank You! I don't know if anyone has tried or found a
>>>>>solution to this problem?
>>>>
>>>>I'll let TheKing (the emperor of chechmate) think overnight (may be more) on it,
>>>>after 1.Qaxf7 Qxf7
>>>
>>>Thanks Vincent!
>>>
>>>I think you may find the mate very deep, but I believe 1.Qaxf7 is most likely
>>>the *key* move...for the shortest route to a long mate. Maybe no program can
>>>find a mate this deep, and no human OTB?
>>
>>
>>Bad news, I let TK overnight on the position , when I go to work, I checked the
>>analysis : no mate (the line was : 1.Qaxf7+ Qxf7 2.Rxa7 ... score +8), I decided
>>to let the comp think until i go back from work, 9h later, when I checked the
>>engine come back to depth 1 !!
>>I decide to restart the analysis for this night after 1.Qaxf7+ Qxf7 2.Rxa7...
>
>After 8 hours (and let it 8 more hours)
>
>[d]rnbqkbnr/Rqqqqq1q/8/8/8/8/1QQQQQQQ/1NBQKBNR b Kkq - 0 2
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>7:14	1/7	8.34	82563323	2...Qcxc2 3.Q1xc2 Qxa7 4.Qhxh7
>					Qaxf2+ 5.Qxf2 Rxh7 6.Rxh7 Qxf2+
>					7.Kxf2
>15:56	1/8	9.20	188717489	2...Qcxc2 3.Q1xc2 Qxd2+ 4.Bxd2
>					Rxa7 5.Qhxh7 Rxh7 6.Rxh7 Qxf2+
>					7.Qxf2 Qxe2+ 8.Qxe2+ Be7
>35:56	1/8	9.07	449544072	2...Qcxh2 3.Rxb7 Qxf2+ 4.Qxf2 Qxd2+
>					5.Nxd2 Qxf2+ 6.Kxf2 Qf7+ 7.Ndf3
>					Bxb7 8.Qxd8+ Kxd8 9.Qxe7+ Nxe7
>					10.Rxh8
>1:00:46	1/9	11.34	803963638	2...Qcxh2 3.Rxb7 Bxb7 4.Rxh2 Bxg2
>					5.Qxd7+ Nxd7 6.Rxh7 Rxh7 7.Qxf7+
>					Rxf7 8.Bxg2
>1:40:41	1/9	10.39	1393340012	2...Qxg2 3.Qhxg2 Rxa7 4.Rxh7 Rxh7
>					5.Qxf7+ Rxf7 6.Qxg8 Qxd2+ 7.Qdxd2
>					Qxc2 8.Qbxc2 Bd7 9.Qxe7+ Qxe7+
>					10.Be2
>3:21:39	1/10	11.05	2897968999	2...Qxg2 3.Qhxg2 Rxa7 4.Qxh8 Qhf5
>					5.Qcxf5 Qdxf5 6.Qxf5 Qxd2+ 7.Nxd2
>					Bxf5 8.Qhxg8 Qxg8 9.Qxg8 Nc6 10.Ngf3
>					Qb6


Thanks Vincent!


[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2004.9.21"]
[Round ""]
[White "Chessmaster"]
[Black "Chessmaster"]
[TimeControl "-"]
[Result "*"]
[Setup "1"]
[FEN "rnbqkbnr/qqqqqqqq/8/8/8/8/QQQQQQQQ/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"]

1.Qaxf7+ Qxf7 2.Rxa7 Qxg2 3.Qhxg2 Rxa7 4.Qxh8 Qhf5 5.Qcxf5 Qdxf5 6.Qxd8+
Qxd8 7.Qxd8+ Kxd8 8.Qxf5 Qxf5 9.Qd4+ Ke8 10.Qxa7 Qxb1 11.Qxg8 Qxc1+
12.Kf2 Qf4+ 13.Nf3 Qxe2+ 14.Bxe2 Nd7 15.Qe6+ Kd8 16.Qa5+ Qc7 17.Qg5+ Nf6
18.Qgxf6+ Qe7 19.Rd1+ Bd7 20.Qxd7# *

Daniel



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