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Subject: Re: The opening book is extreamly important for a chess engine.....Jorge....

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 03:36:07 09/22/04

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On September 22, 2004 at 05:51:01, martin fierz wrote:

>On September 22, 2004 at 05:24:59, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On September 22, 2004 at 04:32:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 22, 2004 at 04:00:18, WAEL  DEEB wrote:
>>>
>>>>...is proving it with his fantastic book oriented tournaments!
>>>
>>>If the engine is strong enough to find better moves by itself then opening book
>>>is not needed.
>>>
>>>This is a good reason to try to develop stronger engines instead of working on
>>>opening books because when the engine get stronger the opening book problem will
>>>be solved automatically because the engine is not going to need a book to avoid
>>>blunders.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>That´s just nonsense. No engine is strong enough to find generally better moves
>>by itself. Won´t change in the next 10 years at least IMHO.
>>
>>Michael
>
>it's definitely not nonsense. i agree that the engine won't find a better (or
>the best according to the book), but a weak engine will make real blunders in
>the opening while a strong engine might just play a slightly inferior move.

Strong engines don´t just play slightly inferior moves in the opening.
They play often complete nonsense without book.
I think we have discussed enough examples here in the past.

>i believe uri is right in that weaker engines profit more from the book.

This goes without saying but I don´t see where Uri made this statement.

Michael

>
>cheers
>  martin



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