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Subject: Re: root move ordering

Author: martin fierz

Date: 14:59:36 09/22/04

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On September 22, 2004 at 17:15:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 22, 2004 at 15:57:34, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>i have a question about root move ordering: my engine currently generates a
>>random root move order, and then orders every move that ever fails high to the
>>top of the list, with previous best moves slowly going down in the list again.
>>
>>how do you order your root move list? by number of nodes to refute? or by
>>something different?
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>Initially I do a q-search after making each root move, and use this score to
>order the moves at the root.  If I am pondering I make sure that the move from
>the PV is put first of course.
>
>After each iteration, I re-order the move list keeping the best move first, and
>ordering the rest based on the size of the sub-tree (number of nodes) each
>produced when it was searched.

don't you think that keeping previous best moves ordered to the front of the
list is any good? is the number-of-nodes metric universally accepted as the best
or are there other approaches? BTW, if you use that, i don't understand why you
bother to order the move list at all at first - in what situation would you not
manage to search 3 ply deep (if you manage to search that deep, the intial
ordering will have become useless)?

cheers
  martin



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